earlier, he _ behaviour. 0k, and tom windsor, who i mentioned earlier, he has _ behaviour. 0k, and tomout today a culture of colic protection within the police, a culture issue that has to be shifted —— colleague protection. let’s culture issue that has to be shifted -- colleague protection.— -- colleague protection. let's be clear on the _ -- colleague protection. let's be clear on the facts _ -- colleague protection. let's be clear on the facts of _ -- colleague protection. let's be clear on the facts of this - -- colleague protection. let's be clear on the facts of this awful, l clear on the facts of this awful, devastating fact, as the judge setting summing it up —— summing it up. he commended the investigation. he said there was no hint of a cover—up. and there was no hint of a cover—up. and there would not be, this is an awful crime. there is an issue when small teams of people work together and sometimes they're in a situation when they're relying on each other for their safety because they do face life—threatening life—changing situations. that becomes an environment where we h

tom: diane swonk was ministerial yesterday. she delicately traipsed through this investment scandal we see. you and i remember the day windsord davies resigned instantly over the libyan flap at the london school of economics. are you surprised that these selected presidents have not resigned yet? michael: no, i am not surprised because i think their argument is that we followed the rules. tom: no question. michael: and they believe that what they actually did, we don't have the final details of what actually was traded and how it was traded, wasn't a conflict of interest. that is up to the fed board to continue investigating to decide if anything should be done, but i think also the argument that rosengren and kaplan were talking against their book in terms of what would have benefited them personally in terms of monetary policy is also a defense they are going to use. tom: michael mckee with a huge day in international economics. nothing more surprising than what we have seen from norway. they have their own pass, some of it based on oil prosperity. wasting olson joins us now, norges bank -- oystein olsen joins us now, norg