tony morrison.are writing in it but i happen to just by the grace of god turned to this tony morrison essay and i immediately texted my producers. let me read a little piece by tony morrison. these sacrifices made by supposedly tough white men prepared to abandon humanity suggest a true horror of law status to retain the conviction of their sue pure yourty to others especially black people they're willing to risk content by the mature, sophisticated and strong if it wasn'to ignore rant and pitif one could money the collapse of dignity and she's talking about people who commit murders, massacres, who hurt and kill black peoe in the name of superiority. talk about this book and about reparations as a theme that we're actually talking abo in real life. >> you know, i mean, it's amazing and, you know, i would be remiss to not talk about the facthat charles ogletr, the attorney had been present on years ago saying it was cause for reparationsn tulsa and people have known and the other thing tha i said co

so i thought a lot about 20 morrison holler in the chat if you like tony morrison, um, she has this great thing and in her book playing in the dark where she says on page 15 the ability of writers to imagine what is not the cell to familiarize the strange and mystify the familiar is the test of their power and i thought, you know, i wanted to take world war i which is like over familiar and give it back to people in a strange way so they could see it again, but to me, it's strange to be a gay man or a pigeon. and so i wanted to make sure that i wrote that in a way that didn't mystify it or that didn't get it wrong. and so i think you know, i like that. she puts it as a test. and so i would say research is the way that i tried to pass that test so thank you. miles, could you could you talk about when you first how did you get taken in by this confidence, man? and what sources what sources led you to finding him? well, i mean the so i got lucky with this. so the source of led me to this was an editor a little brown. so i got a call from age or email from my agent one day said guy from littl

. >> host: this is a story you shared with author toni morrison, as a child i often escape into my own fantasy w world. in my world i was not black, i was not poor, and i was not female. the reaction to that story? [laughter] >> guest: she said she thought that was amazing or something like that. even as a child you have the book in front of you, whatever i said in the book is what she said. [laughter] >> she said you knew enough to want to be the best you could be in america. >> that is what shehe said. [laughter] [laughter] >> host: and sheet mean a white male? >> i guess she thought in a sense of being privileged. my childhood fantasies it was like okay, as a child i read mad magazine i read richie rich.sy and so in my fantasy world i was kindik of like richie rich and so i would be in all sorts of situations. i was in control of my narrative. that is sort of how i got through a lot of the situations. once i got into my late teens and got married and that this is weird, i should not be doing this. so i forced myself to stop. the older me can see all of the reasons why some reason so

host: back to your book, "be the people" and this is a story you shared with tony ravel morrison, quote as a child i often escape into my own fantasy world. in my world i was not black, i was not poor and i was not female. what was tony ravel morrison's reaction to that story? guest: you know, she said that it was amazing or something like that that isn't-- even even as a child-- i forgot-- you have the book in front of you, whatever i said in the book is what she is said. host: it she said you knew enough to want to be the best thing that you can be in america guest: yeah, that's why she said [laughter] host: did she mean white male and rich? guest: i guess she thought the sense of being privileged, but my childhood fantasies, it was like okay as a child i read mad magazine, i read it richie rich and some in my fantasy world i was kind of like richie rich except-- i would put my character in all sorts of situations and i was thinking of my narrative and so that's sort of how i guess i got through that poverty and a lot of those situations, but once i got into my late teens and got marr

host: back to your book, "be the people" and this is a story you shared with tony ravel morrison, quote as a child i often escape into my own fantasy world. in my world i was not black, i was not poor and i was not female. what was tony ravel morrison's reaction to that story? guest: you know, she said that it was amazing or something like that that isn't-- even even as a child-- i forgot-- you have the book in front of you, whatever i said in the book is what she is said. host: it she said you knew enough to want to be the best thing that you can be in america guest: yeah, that's why she said [laughter] host: did she mean white male and rich? guest: i guess she thought the sense of being privileged, but my childhood fantasies, it was like okay as a child i read mad magazine, i read it richie rich and some in my fantasy world i was kind of like richie rich except-- i would put my character in all sorts of situations and i was thinking of my narrative and so that's sort of how i guess i got through that poverty and a lot of those situations, but once i got into my late teens and got marr

morrison from australia with whom they did the deal. $60 billion or something. the french are furious and the brits and french and others not happy with the withdrawal timetable. we know that. tony blinken called to say to the president we have to stretch this out. we think it. the president was not willing to do that. boris johnson trying to smooth that over with savannah but it was clear that he was kind of covering the tracks and being a good ally. >> look. it is hard to imagine a worse backdrop for this president to give a speech talking about quote/unquote relentless diplomacy and the diplomacy we saw with afghanistan many of us would argue was flawed in substance and this administration flawed it in execution and even those who agree like i do with the thrust of what the united states did the australia and the uk the way france was handled makes no sense. it reinforces the message we care less about europe. they have a large role in the indo-pacific region and didn't make a great deal of sense and we have to acknowledge that there is a large gap between what the united states is saying and doing vis-a-vis china and what european countries beginning with germany are saying