host: back to your book, "be the people" and this is a story you shared with tony ravel morrison, quote as a child i often escape into my own fantasy world. in my world i was not black, i was not poor and i was not female. what was tony ravel morrison's reaction to that story? guest: you know, she said that it was amazing or something like that that isn't-- even even as a child-- i forgot-- you have the book in front of you, whatever i said in the book is what she is said. host: it she said you knew enough to want to be the best thing that you can be in america guest: yeah, that's why she said [laughter] host: did she mean white male and rich? guest: i guess she thought the sense of being privileged, but my childhood fantasies, it was like okay as a child i read mad magazine, i read it richie rich and some in my fantasy world i was kind of like richie rich except-- i would put my character in all sorts of situations and i was thinking of my narrative and so that's sort of how i guess i got through that poverty and a lot of those situations, but once i got into my late teens and got marr

host: back to your book, "be the people" and this is a story you shared with tony ravel morrison, quote as a child i often escape into my own fantasy world. in my world i was not black, i was not poor and i was not female. what was tony ravel morrison's reaction to that story? guest: you know, she said that it was amazing or something like that that isn't-- even even as a child-- i forgot-- you have the book in front of you, whatever i said in the book is what she is said. host: it she said you knew enough to want to be the best thing that you can be in america guest: yeah, that's why she said [laughter] host: did she mean white male and rich? guest: i guess she thought the sense of being privileged, but my childhood fantasies, it was like okay as a child i read mad magazine, i read it richie rich and some in my fantasy world i was kind of like richie rich except-- i would put my character in all sorts of situations and i was thinking of my narrative and so that's sort of how i guess i got through that poverty and a lot of those situations, but once i got into my late teens and got marr