caroline randall williams joins me now. she is an award winning poet. this morning you were also a cookbook author. but i'm glad to have you back on the show. this is interesting. we've been talking about monuments for a long time. now we have this audit and it underscores exactly what we knew that we honor men mostly, we honor victors, war heroes, and our monuments are not reflective of people in america. your argument you wrote last year still stands. you are a commemoration or a monument of a racist legacy and our civil war. >> that's right. i think that obviously the information comes as no surprise. i will say one of my surprises even for a cynic like me it was astonishing to discover that the martin luther king statue that was erected in 2011 was the first monument to a black person in the heart of washington, d.c. it's kind of extraordinary to me. i think these conversations are late. i think that statue is erected late. i'm excited that we're having the conversations now. i will also say that i think all of these confederate monuments i wrote th