emily han: thanks.oman: and i contacted gregory to say, can i come out and get it because we don't have any of those specimens in the collection. yep, that's xerotricha there. and who's this little guy? emily han: is that a cochlicella barbara? a really teeny, tiny one? vendei: yep, that's a juvenile. so, in february 1f 2016, i came out here, the hans invited me, and we just did a little exploration of their backyard and collected xerotricha conspurcata, so, the species we're talking about, but then also this other species called cochlicella barbara, which also is a first record for los angeles county. and then now, almost two years later, i'm back assessing are those species still here. and they are. we literally are collaborators. like, we have papers together with all of our names on it. so, those are things that-- that collaboration makes this specimen and citizen science and standing in this backyard a really meaningful thing. pauly: this one's gonna go right there. we have the specimens that you s