well, my guest is fatih birol, boss of the international energy agency. he believes the answer is yes, but is he ignoring the political realities that he'll encounter in glasgow? fatih birol in paris, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much, mr sackur. well, it's a pleasure to see you in your headquarters in paris. of course, very, very soon, you'll be in glasgow as a delegate at the cop26 conference. how unfortunate do you think the timing of the conference is amid an energy cost crisis, a supply crisis, but also with the covid pandemic still with us? it is very unfortunate, both of them. and we are seeing energy prices, coal, oil, and gas being very high. and not only that, the possible impact on the economy, but some people try to portray this as the first crisis of clean energy transitions, which is, i would say, completely wrong. but i see the risk that it may well be a barrier for further policy action to address climate change. this is definitely unfortunate, but there are some fortunate things, mr sackur. there is a great momentum among the count