harriet harman. _ anyway which is safer. harriet harman, labour— anyway which is safer.ay which is safer. harriet l harman, labour mp, thank you anyway which is safer. harriet i harman, labour mp, thank you very much for speaking to us here on bbc news. let's pick up on that security point. joining me now is anthony glees, a security expert from the university of buckingham. this really highlights a tension in our system, doesn't it question about the cornerstone of our democracy that the people who are like those mps have ready access to them. it is a tension with achieving that, and yet at the same time making sure those mps and the people alongside them are safe. i making sure those mps and the people alongside them are safe.— alongside them are safe. i agree with ou. alongside them are safe. i agree with yom the — alongside them are safe. i agree with you. the first _ alongside them are safe. i agree with you. the first thing - alongside them are safe. i agree with you. the first thing that i i with you. the first thing that i would say is this is an appalling attack

it's people like harriet. and the psychiatric profession is aware so many of the sickest people in our society are getting their treatment in jails and prisons. because of that kind of division of labor which is replicated over and over in our society, the moral conflict gets delegated and sort of left to the people at the bottom. and the profession itself can pay less attention because it's not a central concern to people who are rounding the conferences a the american psychiatric conference and so forth. that's sort of an example of how inequality shapes dirty work in america and plays a role in the stories i tell. >> the kind of work that you write about, work in prisons, meat packing plant, drone base, all oil rigs, all of these, one thing that unites them is they're very different kind of workplaces, but all of them are secretive, inaccessible to the public and reporters, kept really out of public view, as you say. soy wonder how do you write about it? can you tell us about your process, how you found peo

and harriet goes to work and learns a prisoner was locked in the shower and he died there. and we now know from autopsy photos neighbor 90% of his body, she learned the other mental health offer would learn this and don't say anything. and again, on one level one can say that's reprehensible you have to come forward your mental health professional you must say something here and on another level how many people would and what ends up happening harriet and a lot of the other people at the prison silence themselves and live with their guilt and their allowing this to happen into circle back to your first point about inequality and why got interested in how this reflects, the lead psychiatrist don't work in the correctional institution is people like harriet in the psychiatric profession is aware that so many of the people in our six id are getting the treatment in jails and prisons but because of that division of labor which is replicated over and over in our society the more conflict is delegated and less to the people the bottom and the profession itself can pay less attent

and they tap on harriet who was 100 years before that. there is a just a little bit of a gap. yet, the more things change the more they remain the same. we are still fighting for the same rights over and over again. may be getting closer may are getting more recognition. both of these stories are definitely women's stories. i like for kate and for us to get into a little bit more of this conversation about what exactly did hamer do? what was that that carried her through to be able to be resilience? to be resistance? to be able to be so committed to her community, to her people, not just her people but to everyone. this was going to benefit everyone and she recognize that she said she was tired but she kept getting up, kept fighting and kept going back. i am hoping we can talk about, where are the high points and what do we know her about? we do not have a lot of time together on this talk. we do it to intrigue people's they go out and get the book and have book discussions and really give lou hamer the credit that she deserves this idea of violent violence from harriet to ham

harriet harman again calling for, as labour have been doing, of late, calling for dame cressida dick,overnment has done all it can to improve the situation and make sure police forces have better vetting procedures in place when it comes to recruitment. that is just happened. we have also got some breaking news that has just come into us and that concerns write to and from morocco in north africa. morocco says it will suspend flights to the uk on the national carrier royal air maroc. to the uk on the national carrier royalair maroc. it to the uk on the national carrier royal air maroc. it has been tweeting that it will be suspending its flights between the uk, germany and the netherlands from midnight tonight. the twitter thread goes on tonight. the twitter thread goes on to say that by decision of the authorities and due to the evolution of the pandemic, so it is covid related, flights to and from germany, the netherlands and uk will suspended today from midnight. reimbursement of tickets, in case you are hoping to fly off to morocco or fly you are hoping to fly off to morocco orfly

harriet harman is calling for action on this issue.to be convened. she explained to me what she hopes that will achieve. he was one of the most friendly and affable mps in parliament. he was always prepared to work with you, whichever political party you were in, if it was a cause that he felt was important. and that is why everybody with their own experience of having worked in common cause with him is feeling shocked, and feeling a sense that this is an attack on democracy. and that is why we have to really think about how we enable us as mps to do our work, to engage with our constituents, but do so in a safe way. and this cannot be just left to the government or left to the police. we have to have that discussion as parliament about what we need to change to make sure that we can keep that engagement with our constituents which is so precious and such a distinctive part of the uk's democracy, but not have a situation where this is the second murder of an mp in five years. we cannot say that as a price worth paying for our democracy

his half-brother, and abolitionist and pastor at senate congregational church in brooklyn with harriet beecher stowe, author of uncle tom's cabin. let's see. a similar scene was repeated as each was rated by yankee troops. the balls feared the worst but in the end the soldiers and free people snatched just a few hands. the single exception came at buck's hall plantation formerly home to william ball's cousin, the buck hall mansion was burned to the ground by federal soldiers and freed ball's slaves, no one was hurt. and so it was. it was possible to look into the telescope into the past and see how slavery came to a end on specific places and specific times, a fascinating story. i told the story from a diary kept from a woman who lived on this plantation but elsewhere i spent time with the family named lucas in charleston whose predecessors, great-grandparents were in that place on that very day and handed down or tradition and stories describing that day in terms nearly identical to terms that were written down by women in that dining room when the yankees showed up. there is black or

there's a woman on the place, named harriet and harriet's has a son and james ball, sells the plantation, it buys another, place in moves to it. in the only person, according to the paper on the records, that goes with him is harriet and her son. and they resettle there. and furthermore he dies and the record shows that he leaves 500 dollars to harriet. into no other african american. so things like that, which is circumstantial evidence, but persuasive. in the case of a couple of, families i would find a photograph of james ball, and of family in berkeley county. i had a photograph of their great grandfather, who was reported to be the son. i compared these two photographs and there was strong family resemblance. so it's a long answer to your question, but it was very difficult to excavate. the details of this very painful history. but, i think that, that's it it's in the end it does help, both black folks and white folks. to come to terms, with the real deal. the real story of our history. by talking about these stories honestly. thank you. what's it like, finding out the information f

his half sister was harriet beecher stowe, author of "uncle tom's cabin." let's see. a similar scene was repeated on all the ball places as each was raid by yankee troops. the balls feared the worst, but in the end the soldiers just snatched a few hams. the single exception came at bucks hall plantation, formerly home to william ball's cousin. the bucks hall a mansion, work buildings and crop were burned to the ground by federal soldiers and freed ball slaves. despite the slaughter of the war, no one -- not even on buck hall -- was hurt. and so it was. it's possible to look into the telescope into the past and see how slavery came to an end on specific places and at specific times, and it's a fascinating story. and i told you stories just now from a diary kept by a woman who lived on this plantation. but elsewhere i spent a lot of time with a family named lucas in charleston whose predecessors' great grandparents had been on that very place, on that plantation on that very day and who handed down oral tradition and ask is stories describing that very day in terms that

the labour mp harriet harman has called for a speaker's conference to be convened.how to keep mps say. she spoke to me about that a little earlier. everybody with having worked in common cause with them is feeling shocked and feeling a sense that this has been an attack on and that is why we have to really think about how we enable us as mps to do our work, to engage with our constituents, but do so in a safe way. and this cannot be just left to the government are left to the police. we have to have that discussion as a parliament about what we need to change to make sure that we can keep that engagement with our constituents which are so precious and such a distinctive part of the uk's democracy, but not have a situation where this is the second murder of an mp in five years. we cannot say that as a price worth paying for our democracy. 0bviously when something as shocking and unexpected and tragic as this happens, it focuses people's attention on matters of security, personal safety, but ijust wonder in the years that you have been in parliament, as it always some

resettle, he dies in the record shows he leaves $500 to harriet and to no other african-american. that which is circumstantial evidence but persuasive and in the case of a couple families i would find a photograph of james ball and our family, a photograph of their great-grandfather purported to be the son of james ball and these two photographs and there was strong family resemblance so the long answer to your question, it is very difficult to excavate details of this painful history but in the end it does help black folks and white folks to come to terms with the real deal, the real story of our history by talking about these stories honestly. change what was it like finding information about kate wilson? >> it was deep. you remember kate wilson. she was the matriarch of the harel's and dinesh harelston family. like james ball, her in slave or, is not married to a white woman and kate wilson was partner if you like, elwood plantation on the east branch of cooper or the west branch and what is extraordinary about these two is they had eight children over appear go of 25 years so

_ together a special conference which harriet harman has called for, so mps across— harriet harman hasese matters and opinions do differ. we have heard people like david _ differ. we have heard people like david davis saying they will continue and others saying things should _ continue and others saying things should he — continue and others saying things should be suspended and meetings should _ should be suspended and meetings should happen on zoom and diane abbot _ should happen on zoom and diane abbot says she wants to have meeting there awe _ abbot says she wants to have meeting there awe screen. this needs to be debated _ there awe screen. this needs to be debated properly. the entry price for a _ debated properly. the entry price for a public, a price to be paid for entry— for a public, a price to be paid for entry into — for a public, a price to be paid for entry into political life cannot be that your — entry into political life cannot be that your own life is in danger and you leave — that your own life is in danger and you leave behind five kids and a wife _ you leave behind

and harriet has a son, then james ball, the unmarried james ball sells the plantation, buys another place and moves to it and the only person according to the paper record the goes with ms. harriet and her son and they resettle their and furthermore james ball dies in the record shows he leaves $500 to harriet and to no other african-americans so things like that, sort of circumstantial evidence but persuasive, in the case of a couple families i would find photograph of james ball and family in berkeley county, photograph of their great grandfather who was purported to be the son of james ball and compare these photographs and there was a strong family resemblance so that is a long answer to your question but it is very difficult to excavate the details of this very painful history but i think the in the end it does help both black folks and white folks to come to terms with the real deal, the real story of our history by talking about the stories honestly. >> what was it like finding out information about the connections to your family? >> it the. kate wilson was the matriarch of t

we have seen harriet harmon your colleague call for cressida dick to resign.ve sympathy with that view? i'm not commenting i on the commissioner, the select committee has not discussed it, so i don't think it would be appropriate. there are issues that harriet has raised that are the same ones i that we are all raising. if a police officer for example - is being investigated for domestic abuse, i have dealt with cases where the police officer- has not been suspended. i think that means the policel are not taking seriously about issues of violence against women. we need other cases investigated, much more widely and that is - what i think the home office needs to make sure happens. _ we can't just have warm words - when it has an impact on confidence for women especially, l but also when it comes against a backdrop of the failure i of the criminaljustice system more widely to deal with violence against women and girls. . with your experience of studying the work of the justice system, do you fear that even inside the organisations like the police there is a kin

there's a woman on the place named harriet and harriet has a son and then james ball, the unmarried james ball, sells the plantation. buys another place and moves to it. the only person, according to the paper record that goes with him is harriet and her son. they resettle there. james ball dies and the record shows he leaves $500 to harriet and to no other african-american. things like that, that kind of -- which is circumstantial evidence, but persuasive. in the case of a couple families i would find photograph of james ball and a family in berkley county had a photograph of their great grandfather who was purported to be the son of james ball. i compared the two photographs and there was strong family resemblance. so that's a long answer to your question. but it was very -- it's very difficult to excavate the details of this very painful history. but i think that it -- in the end i think it does help both black folks and white folks to come to terms with the real deal and the real story of our history by talking about these stories honestly. >> thank you, sir. >> sure, sure. >> what wa

here's phoebe robinson in "sorry, harriet tubman." about the environment? [ laughter ] do you know those guys on the street with -- holding clipboards, just getting in your way [ laughter ] asking you questions that was my boyfriend. he was just tracking me all over the apartment, okay he was like, "are you hungry want to order out? do you want to watch a movie or play checkers? hey, i'm just checking in. want to see how your day is. and i was like, "man, you have an uncut livestream feed of how my day is going. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you tell me. exactly right. [ cheers and applause phoebe robinson, everybody "sorry, harriet tubman" is streaming right now on hbo max it's out congratulations! [ cheers and applause william shatner joins us after the break. stick around, everybody. come on back [ cheers and applause ♪ alright, here we go, miller in motion. wha — wait, wait, is that a... baby on the field?? it looks like it, craig. and the defensive linemen are playing peek-a-boo. i've never seen anything like that before. harris now app

of course pages book, rebekah's book all the work karen has been doing with the harriet tubman sites, this is really a collective conglomeration of women who are really striving to make that legacy happen. i appreciate your time this evening. i also want to thank nancy tate for organizing this conversation pulling everybody together and getting this organized. getting us on the stage to have this conversation and of course the national archives for hosting it and my friend for hosting us so we are able to relate look back and reflect critically not just patting ourselves on the back. but looking back with a critical eye and figure out the besten who served in congress for the u.s. house of representatives office of the historian conducted this interview. >> my name is kathleen johnson today and with the help mention the day is generate we are in the house recording studio and we are very pleased to be speak with former representative susan from new york. thank you very much for coming today but. >> very excited to be part of this project. >> this project we are working on is to recogn

of course pages book, rebekah's book all the work karen has been doing with the harriet tubman sites, really a collective conglomeration of women who are really striving to make that legacy happen. i appreciate your time this evening. i also want to thank nancy tate for organizing this conversation pulling everybody together and getting this organized. getting us on the stage to have this conversation and of course the national archives for hosting it and my friend for hosting us so we are able to relate look back and reflect critically not just patting ourselves on the back. but looking back with a critical eye and figure out the best way to move forward. i appreciate that conversation that we had this evening. thank you very much. >> weekends on c-span2 our intellectual feast. every saturday american history tv documents america's story and on sundays a book tv brings you the latest in nonfiction books and authors. running for cspan2 comes from these television companies and more including media calm. >> the world changed an immediate media calm was ready internet traffics down. sch

harriet what vitality as _ was on crutches. harriet what vitality as a — was on crutches.ings like that. which of the slit comes at— things like that. which of the slit comes at an expense and was in that extra _ comes at an expense and was in that extra bit— comes at an expense and was in that extra bit of— comes at an expense and was in that extra bit of income will be devastating. we are aware that this is not _ devastating. we are aware that this is not always been part of universal credit, _ is not always been part of universal credit, and — is not always been part of universal credit, and it was only supposed to be temporary during covid, but a lot of people _ be temporary during covid, but a lot of people have become reliant on it during _ of people have become reliant on it during this — of people have become reliant on it during this time. it is of people have become reliant on it during this time.— during this time. it is not 'ust the --eole on during this time. it is not 'ust the people on universal h during this time. it is notjust the people on universal credi

harriet duffy worked for a charity as a fundraiser. accommodation — life completely up—ended. ——now harriet and her four—month old son noah, are living in temporary accommodation — life completely up—ended. i have no access to laundry facilities and things like this so at the moment i am using launderettes and living basically off microwave meals and things like that. so obviously that comes at an expense. and losing that extra sort of bit of income will be devastating. completely aware that this hasn't always been part of universal credit and it was only supposed to be temporary during covid but a lot of people have become reliant on it during this time. it's notjust the people on universal credit who are going to feel the impact of the cuts. the money they get, they typically spend in their own local economy — in shops, in cafes, on their own high streets — all of these places are going to feel the impact of £20 being cut. at the foodbank in camborne, volunteers expect an increase in demand. historically, cuts to benefits levels have

his half sister was harriet beach or stow, author of uncle tom's cabin. ... let's see. a similar theme was repeated in all the ball places, as each place was raided by yankee troops. in the end, the soldier snatched a few hands. the single exception came at buck hall plantation, formerly home two balls cousin. for the buck haul mansion, buildings and crops were burned to the ground. and they freed all the slaves. despite the slaughter of the war, no one, not even bacall was hurt. and so it was. it was possible to look into the telescope into the past and see how slavery came to an end. specific places and specific times. and i told that story just now from a diary kept by a woman who lived on this plantation. but elsewhere, i sense a lot of times, for the family made lucas, whose predecessors, great grandparents, had been on that very place, on that very day. and who handed down oral tradition and stories, describing that very days, in terms nearly identical to the ones written down by women who were in that dining room when the yankee showed up on the lawn. so there's

her partners included harriet redman, job opportunities for black women were very limited. so she worked as a janitor at the cities in u.s. district court but you also the president of portland's colored women's equal suffrage association the sophisticated third-generation western suffragists also mounted new kinds of splashy creed of campaigns that change american politicking for ever with marches, publicity stunts and the first button told maggie even electric signs. in seattle, doctor coarseness eaten, co-authored the washington women's cookbook, votes for women, good things to eat. she is also an accomplished mountaineer who had some wicked all of the state of washington's, i think there are six big peaks. she led a party of men and women, the women had to wear knickerbockers which are sort of canvas shorts that kind of buckle under the knee. she led this party on a three-week camping trip to carry a suffrage and to the summit of mount rainier. here she is in washington. the other washington. by 1914 suffragists had one in washington, california, oregon, arizona, kansas

but here, harriet tubman not only participated in that raid but she planned it and led it and that wassomething that we learned during the process of making "uncivil." and we have lessons like that throughout the podcast that people really have -- we have gotten great feedback on. >> what was some of the most surprising things that you learned as you kind of uncovered these truths that were unknown? >> i think, you know, there is a lot of different areas that -- about -- about the civil war and how that folds into the larger teaching of american history that people misunderstand. so one thing that was surprising was to learn how definitive the confederacy was about why they succeeded and essentially, this makes clear what the civil war was all about. in all these successionist documents, they were explicitly clear saying we are doing this because of slavery. so just seeing that and then seeing the tremendous pr campaign the sons and daughters of confederacy put forward, i thought a lot of these monuments that are plastered across the country to the confederacy. i thought they went up a

you have seen her in "harriet" "genius" as aretha.d cynthia erivo! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> kelly: come on over! oh, my gosh! so listen! so listen! this dates back to 2017 for mean, y'all, i had never -- i lived under a rock and i heard my friend john legend legend any were performing with him and it was 2017 and i was like who the hell is this? you are so talented! i tweeted about it, we will show it. i literally -- from years ago, and it's everything is true, and that's from years ago and i just think that you are -- were so gifted. i mean your voice is insane! >> cynthia: says she. >> kelly: not today, ma'am, i am shredding mind today. but i had to say that, it's a true gift, like a lot of people can saying, but not a lot of people move me and you move me and like the best way ever. >> cynthia: thank you. it's been on so i have to ask you about this picture you posted. so why take a trip to the last blockbuster and also we had the owner of that blockbuster on our show? >> cynthia: now i'm excited! i'm

i agree with harriet and — amess, rest in peace.at we could make his legacy finding is responsible for the problems and making them pay up. if we look around the chamber, we see the shields of those who have died. some intellect service in the last world walk, other members went forward knowing the risks. —— some fell in service in the last world war. so did ec keep palmer, jo cox and herfamily is in our hearts and we remember andrew pennington, who also died in a constituency. —— so did pc keith palmer. robert bradford and i worked together in the house of commons football team, tony berry was my whip, but we can together in ulster. his death, i believe, was kind to make us forget the murder of the sister of murphy catherine done a few days earlier in catherine done. —— murder of catherine done. in david's first speech, he said charity has been described as an amiable quality that... he was able to say in his first speech that in the commons, when he made it, there were five people who had previously represented his own constituenc

harriet beecher stowe, the author of "uncle tom's cabin" famously said that a married woman had the same rights as a slave. no more, no less. they were basically their husband's property, and the way they built their evolution from taking their domestic authority that they had in their home, taking it out to the community by starting community organizations, then broadening up to social reform and then finally suffrage. it was amazing, their efforts. i think of my own mother did not have the opportunities that her brother had. and this is just, you know, one generation back. i can remember when i was in the high school and college reading articles in young women's magazine saying that if you were going out with a boy and you were taller, you better wear flat shoes, and don't act too smart, you know, act a little dumb. like, i mean, this isn't all that long ago in history. >> no. >> so yeah, i think we have a great deal to be thankful for. >> yeah, i agree. so we're just about out of time, and running out of questions. so i'm going to leave you with this last question that circles back to

and i think on policing and security, harriet harman had a really strong point where there is surely's realistically talking about the kind of closed protection for members of parliament that the home secretary and prime minister has but in those days and weeks afterjoe died we certainly did review our security and increased it in our offices in general but many mps wanted to keep the open surgeries in an open environment there was one of those. and i think that while there was an increased level of communication with the police as to where we were having surgeries there has not been, to my knowledge, a discrete police presence that most of those events and i realise that is an issue that will increase levels of resource for the police but surely it is something that ought to be on the table now and could be done in a discrete way where conversations between constituents and mps are still remaining in private but there is, just as there will be a routine police presence at a whole range of things across any constituency in a given week, we are talking about, you know, an hour a week,

i think harriet will beat her. she will have extra time.e, i would love to see her try to make that argument. on policy i would love to hear so call antitrumpers, what do they disagree with on trump's policies. they may not have liked his tweets, okay, so what. in terms of policy, donald trump was absolutely right. i would love to hear them say why the democratic plans are so much better, it would just be a joke. steve: i know. as we've discussed. not only right in terms of impact in real world. the economy and so on. strengthening the borders. but politically, just talking pure politics. they have gone going about increasing party appeal with latino voters, black voters in different parts of the country, that is what trump did. what do these people have to offer? >> i don't think they have a case. i think what will be interesting in 2024, what are the democrats going to do. i want to know about kamala harris. they didn't go to capitol hill and brin the person who used to work on capitol hill, kamala harris, they put her on a plane flew her

we have been talking a moment ago with harriet harman and a security expert about whether there is aor how you keep that access but keep mps and their staff and families safe, how much do you think it would damage the democracy we have in this country if that access were limited or hindered or stopped altogether and become virtual? this will not happen. we will carry on as members of parliament meeting our constituents and being open and accessible. there are basic security things we should do and we are reminded of that but we will carry on. lindsay hoyle — the speaker — did a surgery last night and i think that was important and symbolic that we carry on. immediately after, i made a point of going down to my office and getting on with life. we are part of the community and that is what works. so yes, we need to dust off a few security arrangements but there is no ability to wrap us in cotton wool nor would would our electorate want it, nor would we want it. sir david worked alongside the charity �*dogs trust�* with its �*puppy smuggling taskforce. he supported the campaign to end t