younger generations, first—generation students and, of course, that leads us to the town house by grafton architects. kingstonrative, social. receiving the award for grafton architects, gerard carty. and we have the winner with us now. gerard carty from grafton architects, congratulations. must be a good feeling. oh, it is absolutely astonishing. we are really astounded, delighted that we have won this prize but particularly for the university because this is something that's so important that we speak about what university education is about. one of the extraordinary things about this is the client, as much as anything, isn't it, because they had this strange vision about inviting in the public, getting the library and the dance studios together, trying to create a sort of social hub... exactly. they were looking for a showcase building and what that meant was not that it was a show—off building but a building that revealed what was happening inside the building to the passers—by into the outside. do you think that this is about changing the way university education might be? because, i mean, a lot of the st