i am marion koopmans. i'm a professor of virology. i am marion koopmans. the origins mission international team because of my expertise on viruses at the human—animal interface and virus transmission studies. i have read about pandemics, i have studied them, i have worked in this field for 30 years but experiencing one is a whole different ball game. professor koopmans has been at the heart of one of the world's biggest unsolved mysteries for over a year. it is hard. work has been crazy. pressure on my loved ones, like everyone, has been crazy. being part of these kinds of discussions comes at a price. not everyone is happy with the scientist positions on this, so there are threats like every high profile virologists. you have had physical violent threats? oh, yes. nine months ago, professor koopmans flew to the first epicentre of the outbreak with other international experts to try and find out how the pandemic began. wuhan city, home to 11 million people and the most populated city in central china. it prides itself on being an international hub for scie

koopman going to think that there is anybody that we didn't touch on from the book that deserves mention. >> we had quite a few of those chapters in one way or another. >> i think if we can't think of anything, something of the world. [laughter] >> let me hold this up one more time and say, marvelous read phil, is a pleasure to talk to you tonight need to see worker from early chapters of humanities and to find the interesting covers and it is a marvelous read and it really drew me through and i think that's a marvelous contribution to both literature but the environmental movements and environmental 20th century and how we think about wilderness how we think about place and what we carry into the natural world pretty and what it offers us. i'm sure john will give us the link and please get a copy of this marvelous book. it was a wonderful pleasure to read and a pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you for doing this in it was easy for me and if i can add a blog, the 5-dollar donation it for this event would be a wonderful thing to do. it's been a hub for all of us through this timely event