lemkin says "no".ecause what they've done but, because they are a member of a group. the law must protect them as a group. no, he says, if you protect them as a group, you will replace the tyranny of the state with the tyranny of the group. and i think that has, to a certain extent, happened. because you, in a sense, fall into the trap that the nazis set. yes. when lemkin published his book in november 19114, he received an extraordinary letter from a friend of his that said, "look, i'm looking to make this public. "i don't want to criticise you, but by taking "the concept of genocide and wrapping it around "the group, you taking a biological approach "to the definition of the crime and you've taken the same path "that hitler took." that argument, i think, is a powerful one. when you say it resonates with you, with all respect, have you not, to a certain extent, fallen into the trap? you write very frankly, very honestly about the impact it has had on you going to visit the region — it's been variously

the guy who invented the concept in autumn of 1944, raphael lemkin, a rather wonderful character wasesperately upset that it wasn't on the list of crimes. and so he flew himself to london to get it into the indictment which is he succeeded in doing as a war crime but not as a crime on its own. some people looking at nuremburg today, they are deeply disturbed that not enough room and space was given to the experiences and the stories and the testimonies of victims. in particularjewish victims of the nazi holocaust. none was given. and still when i go onto youtube and watch little extracts of witnesses being examined by prosecutors or by defence counsel is almost cringe making. there is one guy in particular samuel reisman literally one of the only survivors of the extermination camps, gas chambers and you see the way in which he's examined and you think will, give this guy a break, he's literally been liberated a few weeks earlier and they are coming down on him like a tonne of bricks. it's disconcerting. and that's a change of values today it would be done differently. here's a quote