thank god the septa worker thought something was up and thank god police were waiting for him when he got off the train. but nothing legal will happen to anyone who did not intervene in this case. >> how often do you hear officials in philadelphia making an appeal to bystanders, essentially telling them to, if you see something, say something? you heard that phrase from someone who was interviewed. we've heard that phrase so many times now. do you hear that as commonly in philadelphia? >> yes. what you have going on in philadelphia right now, and this is basically something that's going on across the nation, it's kind of what i would like to say, an experiment of sorts. we all lived through the tough on crime, the mandatory minimums, and the really crackdown, hard on crime. we lived through that time. and then now there's been a progressive approach that's been more of a rehabilitation approach. and yes, time will only tell whether or not -- which side was right. is hard on crime better? is a hammer better? or a more progressive approach where we're focusing on rehabilitation? and yes