and best selling author, katty kay. don't we start with the last person we saw in that shot, katty kay, nancy pelosi who now was a guiding force in pushing through the affordable care act, guiding force pushing through covid-19 relief and the transportation bill and the build back better bill. you look at her resume of what she's been able to shepherd through the house. i heard this was never going to happen. let's start with nancy pelosi. she obviously ranks up there legislatively as one of the most successful speaker of all time, does she? >> yes, i remember after the affordable act, this was a really tough passage. we saw all of the divisions within the house democrats and those who didn't want to vote on this until the build back better bill was actually linked and didn't want to vote on the infrastructure bill until this bill were going to pass as well. it was not a pretty process but she got it. she got both the infrastructure bill and the build back better bill voted on. no one can count votes like nancy pelosi.

azar and katty kay for kicking us off. one other piece of all of this, we turn to other covid concerns. this is a life and death issue, but there's also the politics. "washington post" reporting on this new variant and noting any resurgence of covid worries could further drag down biden's popularity and undercut his promise to restore the country to normalcy. the clear political point is that covid is bad politics for the incumbent. that was certainly true for donald trump, whose own pollsters found covid hurt him as president and helped cost him the election. it's also true for biden as long as people think covid is worse than it should be. that's the story. some stories are simple. covid is bad politics. keep that in mind as you hear a particularly dumb new conspiracy theory on the right, which argues biden and the democrats are somehow trying to bring on the new variant because they want covid around for the elections. >> if president trump was still in office, by the way, we would already have modified vaccines to deal

adams, katty kay. congratulations on your win. you had a very good night.aign up there in new york. you ran as a centrist. i want to ask you, since you're up in new york, a little bit about what happened in virginia and what you think the democratic party nationwide, as it looks for candidates in next year and 2024, needs to take away what happened in virginia that's different from your experience. you're a democrat. you'll won in new york. you won the primary by running as a centrist. when it comes to the cultural issues we've been talking about on this program this morning, what is your advice to democrats on how they should run on those issues? >> it is interesting. when people do an analysis on my 100 steps forward for new york city, they say, wow, these are progressive policies. because what we must understand in the city, state, and country, is that practical is progressive. that's what progressive is. you were just talking about closing the building of rikers island. that's not progreprogressive. close the pipeline that feeds it. 55% of the men and w

>> katty kay, i want to continue reading from alex jones's subpoena because there are more clues abouty about white house involvement. this is to alex jones from the 1/6 committee. though you did not speak at the ellipse rally, you were there. as you have stated, the white house told you on or about january 3, 2021, that after the ellipse rally ended on january 6th, you were to lead a march to the capitol where president trump would meet the group. you did, in fact, march from the ellipse rally to the capitol, accompanied by ali alexander, also known as alley abdul razak akbar and others. when you arrived at the capitol, you were recorded telling people not to be violent and to gather on the east side of the capitol to hear president trump speak. that location coincided with a site for which mr. alexander's stop the steal has organized and obtained a permit for a rally that day, though using the name, one nation under god. president trump, however, did not leave the white house to come to the capitol. so, the 1/6 committee is aware of communications between the white house and alex jon

literally ran the dnc and msnbc analyst katty kay.o to you as the independent objective observer. is this night different from other nights, because democrats have previously said they were close to a spending deal? >> look, it's different for two reasons. if they get the spending deal, yes, a big deal paper lewes et president, he said in his speech tote at the white house build on mmentum of that great jobs numbers. good news for the president's economic agenda and also big news, ari, if they don't get the votes tonight and there's indication some of those progressive democrats may hold out. that the vote could perhaps go the wrong way for the white house. and that's important news, too, because here is president biden trying to make the functioning nature of democracy a cornerstone of his presidency, and this would suggest that the american people, at the moment, at least, democracy is not functioning particularly well for people. i think it's big news either way. >> yeah. fair enough. howard, speaker pelosi today spoke about why it

jonathan, coming off ali's comments i want to read you something from katty kay today. she writes, white house and congressional democrats say no one will remember the process or the delays if/when these two bills pass. it's a fair point but at some stage a reputation for competence gets harmed by all these public missed deadlines and to ali's point, jonathan, not to mention the virginia governor's race, could she be right here? >> yeah, certainly that's what the white house aides would like to think, that americans as we've been discussing once these measures go into effect, that they will forget just the tortured process that got us there. i think i'm a little less certain of that and other democrats i've talked to close to the white house and some on capitol hill are worried about it too. president biden was elected, one of his key promises was to restore americans' faith in the government to show again that the u.s. government, the u.s. bureaucracy could deliver for its citizens after the four tumultuous years of then president trump but also as an example for the r

harry litman, leigh ann caldwell, eddie glaude, david jolly, katty kay, thank you for being part of what wasn't our plan, but the breaking coverage of the hour. "the beat with ari melber" starts right now. >> hi, nicolle. welcome to "the beat." we're tracking the breaking news nicolle just referenced. the new subpoenas for roger stone. neil koch al joins us on that. i'll bring you all that with legal expertise from neil and others. we begin with our top story. that's the vigilante justice and the hate on trial across america. conservative leaders have been celebrating the jury acquittal of the teenager who killed two. there's these other trials that are continuing regarding where the jury is deliberating -- who are accused and indicted for killing an unarmed jogger. these killers all white and the jogger, ahmaud arbery is black. these men chased him down and shot him to death on camera. they later claim what they were doing in their mind was a citizen's arrest. they claim that without evidence of them actually doing so at the time. that's something the prosecution has torn into noting th