very, very, very clearly when they sent envoys when, when the showman goes to china with a tour and newland, they say, look, here's our interest. when are prepared to, to talk to about this, if you want to talk about taiwan, you want to be talk about these other issues. there are private or internal masses, hong kong, in turn, by, by victoria and be very tough, be begin, look at her, a leak phone call about the european union on line. i suppose i don't know about the refugee crisis there, but i mean, here the english channel enormous numbers of people fleeing well from the was started by tony blair and, and george w bush all that time ago. but actually, the news here is not mean about the refugees across the english channel. i'll give you far more coming for front. it's about of course, as you mentioned earlier, the better roost. poland border is putin responsible for hybrid warfare, as we're being told every day. here is a vanguard of this kind of opposition to washington's research and imperial policies. no, i mean, obviously dissolved from me, something of a standalone diplomatic stand o

i believe it was before a newland who has voiced the sample. i thought us yesterday with the 5, the 5000000000 was from the, from independence all the way to 2014 nichol. i let me go to you. something that you've written about that i think is so important that our audience needs to know is that the way it's presented in western media, the way western analyst present the situation with the, as they present it, is a conflict between ukraine in russia when in fact it is an intro ukraine conflict, so they, they obviously, and intentionally or frame it in the wrong way. because this is a conflict with in ukraine here. and there seems to be very little interest on the part of the western powers between the united states to actually make the government in care of resolve its own internal problems. before it starts talking about russia, go head nikolai. i actually see this conflict as a nested conflict, a, which is a conflict at several levels. there is a conflict between the united states and russia. there is a conflict between russia and ukraine, but

there's a lovely story that -- a big controversy, was plymouth the final departing point or was it newlandeat rivalry in the part of the world. a lot of goalies taking waste away from the buildings into the sea. apparently the mayflower sailed on the same day but you can bet your bottom dollar the actual harbor itself would've been very smelly, very dirty, a lot of steam coming off the water. so in general not very nice. a lot of trade, a lot of trade obviously in fish. it was a huge fishing port. and wine, wall. coal was being delivered into plymouth from different parts of england in that time. treasure, obviously treasures that were taken. so quite a hustling, bustling little town but dirty and filthy nonetheless. >> what it had been familiar to the pilgrims? >> no. it wouldn't have been familiar to the pilgrims. there were pilgrims from plymouth that joined the mayflower but most of the pilgrims came from lincolnshire and to the north and east of plymouth where the puritans or saint as they were called. of the 102 passengers, 50% were what we would call pilgrims. the other 50% were cal

he was in ukraine, went to brussels and then we end victoria newland show up here with a very bizarre meeting here. is it a game of chicken that there play glen while it is? because while it is kind of problematic, because on one hand, they have to tell the russians, you know, we are by the agreement. but at the same time, the end of the mission will go on as to keep it popping up. you're going to push it towards that are changing the means agreement. i mean, the policy or the specific nears, has really been pushing that in this direction. so over the past 7 years, the west coast all is anti russian sanctions weakening, trying to weaken russia obviously didn't go aston hope and that same time popping up grades. and then at some point, they should be able them to change the power balance and then being able to renegotiate amounts of this was supposed to be back in april and you know, your credit again, mobilizing his troops, are along the border as you know, the west comes with stern warnings, nato says, do not there to do anything. russia. and then russia mobilizes an ups. you know, g

immune to the impact of hundreds of people dying every week when what, what is it that gets people in newland too dangerous via circulating at such a level and killing so many people. yes. so there is that clear fatigue and people just say, you know, 40 people died today and it's almost water over a ducks, back. it is unacceptable. we have what we need is a comparison because people have become fatigue. but we need a comparison, a clear indicator in germany in france, in spain. the daily death is x in the united kingdom, the daily death numbers are x plus plus. and we need to constantly constantly feed this back to the public that the u. k is not doing as well as the european union. why and what can we do about it to become as good as we can because we are not as good as we can be. and don't open can if you were a d, e, and of government, which many of us wish who had what would be the one measure you would say to the, the, the lead those across the scotland, wales, non island and england. what was been one measure you see, for goodness sake do that now, at this stage in this fund them it, yo

administration at the moment seems to be anxious to reduce tension with russia, hence the visit of newland to moscow. and the fairly cool reception of zelacofsky in washington. but on the other hand, they now go along with this, the complete end of relations with nita, which of course, on the russian side was response to the expulsion by nature of alleged russian agents. but you also get the general last in eunice saying that some ukraine in georgia are going to be members of nature one day, which by the way, very few people in private touch. well, leave any. you mentioned a lot of things that need unpacking. so let's take them one by one. i want to start with this silent treatment metaphor because i'm technology both and in couples counseling. this kind of silence rather than loud fights are considered a major sign of breaking up. i wonder when it comes to the relationship, very uneasy relationship between russia and need to do you think we have seen the worst already, or the real break up is, is yet to come. well, i hope we've seen the worst, but, you know, the, the most dangerous aspect