is charged is they all work together sort of as this team but certainly jurors could look at rodney brian's conduct a little bit differently than the other two because again, he was the one with the cell phone camera but not welding a firearm. >> interesting because in the closing you had the prosecution essentially saying using the same statements that rodney brian's attorneys had been but for this video we'd never know what happened but for this video you wouldn't have the prosecution. they turned it on their head in terms of the closing argument to say well, we have the video not because you were somehow heroic. you weren't just sort of a person on the side just watching this. you were an active participant and under the georgia law, you have this party of a crime that's pretty expansive here. elliott, even if this trial concludes with an acquittal or conviction, we are waiting to know, they still have to face another trial and that's federal hate crime charges. that's been a really major issue for them, right? >> right. exactly. because a lot of the issues around race did not come up in

individual who is the trigger man travis mcmichael, his dad is driving the pickup truck but then rodney brian is behind them. what the prosecution is charged is they all work together sort of as this team but certainly jurors could look at roddie bryan's conduct a little bit differently than the other two because again, he was the one with the cell phone camera but not welding a firearm. >> interesting because in the closing you had the prosecution essentially saying using the same statements that rodney brian's attorneys had been but for this video we'd never know what happened but for this video you wouldn't have the prosecution. they turned it on their head in terms of the closing argument to say well, we have the video not because you were somehow heroic. you weren't just sort of a person on the side just watching this. you were an active participant and under the georgia law, you have this party of a crime that's pretty expansive here. elliott, even if this trial concludes with an acquittal or conviction, we are waiting to know, they still have to face another trial and that's federal ha

isn't it time, isn't it time, ladies and gentlemen, that we send rodney brian home?rter: the growing protests outside the court threatened the proceedings. the presence of demonstrators with guns had brian's attorney kevin goff again motioning for a mistrial. it was denied. the judge did say he decided to move the jury deliberations to an interior room of the courthouse to keep jurors out of side. -- sight and earshot of the demonstrations. the family of arbery appreciated the protesters but urged them to be peaceful. and not interfere with the trial itself. >> the community has been an encouns encouragement to the family. >> we cannot allow anything to disrupt justice in this case. >> reporter: the family of ahmaud arbery and their attorneys were outraged. they could not believe the victim in this case was turned into the villain by the defense attorneys in their closing arguments. not only blaming ahmaud arbery for his own death but then the way that they physically described him in court they just could not believe it. meanwhile in closing arguments will continue

gregory mcmichael and his son travis mcmichael and william rodney brian junior are charged with maliceting a civil arrest. linda, the lead prosecutor however pointed out that the major flaw in that defense is that arbery's attackers were the ones that started the confrontation. >> they don't have any authority to use verbal commands. this is a fellow citizen. this is another human being. they started it. they do not get to claim self-defense and of course, provocation. you can't force someone to defend themselves against you. this isn't the wild west. no. >> with me now katy fang, msnbc legal contributor and paul butler. katy, i have to play you one of the most despicable things i've ever seen in watching a lot of trials. this is the defense lawyer. doing what seems to me to be clearly trying to make this almost all white jury despise the dead ahmaud arbery, take a look and also the reaction of arbery's mom. >> turning ahmaud arbery into a victim after the choices he made does not reflect the reality. in his khaki shorts with no socks to cover his long dirty toenails. >> that was just

rodney brian has to be -- >> he should have turned. >> you and i saw from that jury verdict, he didn't get the malice murder but got a felony murder, he participate in that. >> to quote linda, everyone gets a super bowl ring. president biden issued a statement saying ahmaud arbery's killing witnessed by the world on video is a devastating reminder how far we have to go in the fight for racial justice. kamala harris said the defense counsel chose to set a tone that cost the attendance of ministers of the trials intimidation and dehumanized a young black man and the jury arrived at the verdict despite the tactics and stacey abrams released a statement. both united states senators from georgia who are democrats thanks to black voters and particularly black women voters and voters of color says further investigation is necessary to determine how and why officials initially refused to pursue the case and rafael the true justice looks like a black man not having to worry about being harmed or killed while on a jog, while sleeping in his bed and living what should be a very long life. and i'l

have you seen the video from rodney brian's driveway? >> yes. >> were you aware of him in that moment? >> no. >> did you see him on his porch? >> i didn't. never met him before. >> did you know him before this moment? >> no. >> did you ever have any kind of facebook connection with him? >> no. >> ever call him on the phone? >> no. >> at this moments are you aware he's on the porch and can see you and mr. arbery together? >> no. >> stupid question time. did you look at him and go let's go, get in your truck, help out? >> no. >> so he starts to run back up the road after the second attempt at a conversation. before he ran up the road at that second attempt of conversation, did he speak to you and say, hey, what is it? >> no. >> what do you want? any words whatsoever? >> no. >> did he make eye contact with you? >> yeah, we made eye contact the first time. the second time i'm not sure. may have. i was watching his hands. i was more keying in to his hands. >> when you're backing up, did you back up to try to block him? >> i did not. >> did yo

for lunch meet me at rodney scott barbecue. brian have me here. >> rodney scott barbecue is one of the most famous place for barbecue in all of south carolina. won more awards than you can shake a stick at. >> good to be here. rodney, heard a lot about you, brian kilmeade. >> nice to me meet you. brian: what is it about your hometown loves. >> consistency, the food, it's everything. brian bruin so i noticed as you walk, in everyone is talking, right? >> yeah. >> brian: are you okay with that. >> i am. it's kind of a blessing, right? i feel like i'm a vehicle for the great ideas of my constituents to help me make our nation better. brian: does it help that you were in business? does it helped that you worked at 13 years old. >> 13 years i started working at a gas station checking oil and pumping gas back in the day when someone else pumped the gas for you. i worked movie theater. sold vacuum cleaners door to door. prepared me for a future that i could not see. he saw something in me and he knew something about the life that i could li

brian: one of the restaurants i went to you will see in tim scott's feature rodney scott barbecue placewners they have to raise their prices on the fly. they can't get their printer to redo the menu. i know that says 45.50 but it'ss really 6.6.25. steve: trust me it's $8. it was 35 month and a half ago. ainsley: a lot of people don't eat out because it's too expensive. they would rather eat at home. whatever you are kicking at home has gone up too. the biden administration is considering pulling the plug on another pipeline. brian: yup, energy costs are up. gallons prices are hitting seven year high. your home heating bill is going up. so, what would the administration do? let's make it worse. steve: they would if they pulled the plug. peter doocy live at the white house as members of the party urge him to ease the crisis there are about a dozen democrats saying don't do it, joe. pete: this is happening as the energy secretary, jennifer granholm is admitting it is already going to cost more to heat your home this winter. but administration officials are still looking at another pipeline