u. s. nichol, i, i think the nightmare scenario is the following. is that considering the, the rhetoric that's coming out of care of, with being very frustrated, not getting into the nato club is as fast as they would like. i, i think they just, that nato nations are just dangling that in front of them. however, he may want to press the issue and that's the nightmare scenario. but this how it, this is how it plays out. is it, there is a military conflict. rushes read lines are across, there is a conflict. ukraine is a left in tatters. um, and maybe even potentially broken up into smaller pieces. but it, what is a loss for ukraine is also a loss for russia, because this is a way to cut russia out of the europeans architecture forever. forget at least generations here. this is one of the things that the people in washington want and what you and what at the end result is, ukraine is the biggest loser and they win their policy objectives. so actually ukraine is the cannon fodder for this object objective. go ahead, nikolai. well hi, think you've articu