van beurden insists shell's own emissions are on track.ve reduced emissions already with 17%, and we are on track to get to minus 50% by 2030. that is just going to be measured, it's going to be put on scorecards, and part of my bonus is going to be dependent on us meeting that. remember, these targets do not include emissions from customers using shell products. that's 90% of the total footprint. this gigantic oil refinery is changing to make less carbon—intensive products. that won't be good or fast enough for some people, who would probably like to see it shut down tomorrow, but our lives are still very much entwined with industries like this, and in fact, if you have a pension, you own shares in shell and bp. but there are those who think we should be withdrawing our financial backing for industries like this. just selling up and walking away would be a mistake, according to the world's biggest money manager. we can't have that dialogue with companies if we are not invested in them. by being invested in the companies, we have that seat