he allegedly flirted with a white girl in her family store, as a result of that, emmit till was lynched generate sim path it for his own fading career and to lie so bold faced and to try to contradict every cop and every witness presented, i think, was really really appalling. usually, a case like this , steve, would end with the defendant, once convicted, being sentenced to probation, but his lies were so blatant and so steadfast and he's refused to apologize for them. he can almost be charged with perjury again, i doubt that will happen but i think that the judge will, in some ways, throw not throw the book at him because he could get three years for each of the five offenses but rather, give him a sentence where it is more serious than just probation. steve: well, i'm sure you heard black lives matter is standing behind him because they say they can never trust the chicago police, but jussie smollett's attorneys now say forget about what happened yesterday in the courtroom with the jury. we're going to appeal, and because they're doubling down. he's 100% innocent. geraldo: well, i th