and that's when the ideas of the academy, darwin 1859, freud, margaret mead, all of these ideas exist" magazine puts this grotesque idea "is god dead." in the middle of america's living rooms, at the center of e ground culture okay? so in a sense the evidence of god from science reaches the high water mark in roughly 1966. so the question is asked, and my thesis is that the question was settled by the con men is nt in 1966 who pretty much god is dead, we live in a secular world and we need to get on with it, and they never really continued to look at the evidence or a kind of settled that. so we live in a secular culture roughly since then, which means that -- which means that we don't really take seriously the idea of god, that that has been on the wane. so the reason i wrote the book, it really had to do with it -- i do not want to write about atheism or the his ideas. but i met two people from completely different disciplines and some people say it was serendipitous. i truly believe it was god's hand paired but i happen to meet two people that gave me an effect evidence for god did