explain what the niskanen center is and how you are funded.e niskanen center is a moderate think tank in washington, dc founded in 2014. we come from a heterodox perspective with folks from the left and the right. i do not want to attest for my fellow think tankers, but we have moderate republicans, centrist democrats, and we try to find trans-partisan policy solutions, things that can bridge the gap rather than split the difference. host: how is your group funded? guest: predominantly by foundations. we are fully committed to funding transparency unlike many other nonprofit organizations. just go to our website and on the about page, we have a full list of our donors from the largest to the smallest. host: samuel hammond, the poverty and welfare policy director there. the expanded child tax credit not continued to go past the new year, expected to end december 31. what does that mean for folks who have been receiving those monthly payments? guest: it means a lot of uncertainty. i have been a longtime advocate of the child tax credit going bac

now it has been reduced to this comedy where you have to get your soundbite in niskanen center -- soundbite in in 15 seconds or less. what we are doing right now is an exception to a goes on and television in terms of the discourse in this country. we have made everything a soundbite and that favors the people who do not have solutions because anybody can dance around for 15 seconds and look good on camera. but when you have extensive time explaining what you want to do and having a smart person asking hard questions, that would really root out some of the show horses and maybe give us more candidates who actually have some solutions that will work. host: just a few minutes left in the time we have. thursday, you are a bigger fan than the state government -- bigger fan of the state government than the federal government. i wonder how you feel about states that are going through the redistricting process and the gerrymandering that we see on both sides every 10 years in that process. much of that people feel is politicians picking us. guest: that's right. there is a good argument for having