and with their ability to keep on that abatement process. >> plus being on the facilitated graffiti advisory boardrned more about graffiti and it's just, you know, must recalls, we love murals and they often don't get tagged, it's often a deterrent. sometimes you'll get a little monster like they did in the mission that one time. again, i don't work in that department with the public and private property team, butted the graffiti advisory board, i work really closely with them. >> president laguana: great. vice president zouzounis. >> vice president zouzounis: thank you for being present and working with us on this item. i wanted to point out that in public code, there's language that doesn't match up or isn't present on the actual notice and i think if you look at the actual noise there's no details about what that it does say that you have to show up in person. that's the oj thing it says about that hearing on the notice. the second option is if you don't abate it within 30 days, the think will proceed with a court record and a lean on your property. >> that's on the notice so making the hearing