that's gym royo, a member of the oath keepers in arizona talking about meeting with congressman paul gosarrelationship gosar has never publicly disavowed. his office never responded to cnn about this issue. and he is not the only trump booster connected to the group. roger stone was accompanied by members of the group on his trip to washington, d.c., on january 6th. stone says he was not at the capitol for the attack, and has not been charged with any crimes connected to january 6th. but his ties to another fringe group called the proud boys were previously looked into by federal prosecutors on ofunrelad investigation. it's no surprise, the proud boys were part of the insurrection since they have only been encouraged by what trump has said publicly about them. during a debate in 2020, trump was asked if he would condemn white supremacists and militia groups. this is how he answered -- >> stand back and stand by. >> reporter: this wasn't the first time trump publicly embraced a fringe group. the conspiracy movement known as qanon see trump as their savior. and believe he will rescue the wor

so he decided to not work with paul gosar and instead found another republican to work with. brad schneider is not alone in deciding that. several house decided that is a standard, they do not want to work with republicans who voted against certifying state election results. there are almost 200 house republicans and 139 of those republicans voted in some way against certifying the election results. that is a large percentage right off the bat, some of these democrats are saying they do not want to work with. host: if the democrats have the majority in the house at the end of the day, to their perspective, does it matter if they have this working relation? guest: it matters because they are solving problems of america. when you do not have the people even wanting to have discussions with each other, congress gets further gummed up. certain issues that were once small, that could once make their way through congress and passed, they are getting gummed up. it is difficult for congress to pass legislation, it has been that way for years. but now you have people drawing the line

>> well, i mean, the two are not disconnected, that is, what marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar wantant to kevin mccarthy right now. he not only defends the qanon base of his support, but he's terrified of losing it, and so marjorie taylor greene is calling for vengeance, so kevin mccarthy is calling for is kev mccarthy will do whatever donald trump tells him to do, and far apart from committee assignments, that means that kevin mccarthy will vote to overturn the next election, next presidential election if donald trump loses again. he voted to do so the first time and he will vote to do so again, only this time if he should ever be in the majority or be speaker, he has the ability to carry that out and that is such a real and direct threat to our democracy. kevin mccarthy can never be allowed to become speaker and in that sense i think the midterms are really an election in which democracy itself will be on the ballot. >> one final point on this is when democrats took over you didn't remove devin nunes as the ranking republican, even though you and he had been adversaries during all

i mean, he says it's because when democrats kicked off republicans marjorie taylor greene and paul gosarnt to point out that gosar and marjorie taylor greene were removed for either social media posts depicting or in support of killing fellow members of congress, and that is not what mccarthy is alleging with these democrats, so it just doesn't add up. >> yeah, that's right, ana. let me tell you what. look, i worked with speakers boehner, pelosi, and ryan, and i saw how they dealt with members who became distractions or embarrassments. i mean, we used to do these things internally. i was involved with conversations to get members of congress to resign in order to protect the institution from further damage. and these, again, were for issues of conduct or misconduct. in the cases of gosar and greene, those were bad acts. i mean, these were really embarrassing and offensive to the institution, and that's where it gets back to this issue of maintaining a standard of conduct. that is the role of the leaders. if they don't do it, then that conduct becomes acceptable and normalized, and look h

it a set by democrats after they remove republicans marjorie taylor greene, paul gosar for inflammatory. >> the democrats created a new thing where they pick and choose who can be on committee, never in the history have you had the majority tell the minority who can be on committee but this new standard, which these democrats have voted for, if eric swalwell cannot get a security clearance in the private sector, there is no reason why he should be given one for intel or homeland security so he will not be serving there. >> so you're going to if you're the speaker of the house, remove him. >> ilhan omar should not be searc serving on foreign affairs. >> what about any committee for omar? >> this is a new level for the democrats. you look at adam schiff, he should not be serving on intel. >> okay. so i want you to remember that democrats removed congressman gosar for mosti rr for posting showing him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez and killing biden and greene was removed after it was found she previously repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent democrats and supported a whole

she was concerned about setting precedent by going after marjorie taylor greene, by going after paul gosar, that republicans would simply replicate it anytime they were upset or concerned about any democrats in a republican majority. she dismissed that saying they had to take action, given greene's rhetoric and given what gosar day. but it shows you very quickly that mccarthy if he's speaker plans to do some retribution dp against democrats. >> thank you. >>> we'll talk to the secretary of health and human services live. >>> and remembering the man that many think of as america's dad. actress julie fisher will join us to talk about her dear friend. stressed, dry and sandpaper. strypaper? luckily, there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients. and no preservatives. try biotrue! with age comes more... get more with neutrogena® retinol pro plus. a powerful .05% retinol that's also gentle on skin. for wrinkles results in one week. neutrogena®. for people with skin. ♪ (peaceful music) ♪ ♪ ♪ (battle sounds from phone) ♪ ♪ (battle sounds stop) ♪ ♪ (dragon

arizona congressman, paul gosar, one of the leaders of the attempt to overturn the results, said in at congressional hearing, that mysterious unnamed sources had approached him the day after the election to tell him the election was stolen from donald trump now don't worry about trying to follow any of this, because you can't. >> the day after the election, i was contacted by two individuals. one had -- had security and fraud -- jobs with the banking world. the other one is from fraud from the department of defense. what they saw from arizona drew their attention quickly, first, based on numbers of 90 some thousand, 60 some thousand, 40 some thousand the ballots drop into donald trump's category, and then, it quickly come out verbatim but then, they started watching and looking to the dumps and what i mean by that, is there's a first dump there's multiple dumps, maybe nine or ten through the night. if the first dump in coconino county with 61% for joe biden, you would expect the rest of the time -- the rest of the dumps to be very similar. [ light laughter ] 58, 62, 55 and so forth. n

paul gosar saying "russia invading ukraine is not an immediate threat to the security of the american people, homeland, and way of life." ruben gill lego, "russia is mistaken if it believes the u.s. will stand by her cold -- standby. " caller: good morning, c-span. what a mistake. we just got out of afghanistan, not even a year ago. this idea we care about the ukraine people to the extent we are going to further engage in military industrialization, i cannot believe we are even considering it. i hope we do not go much further with this. thanks for taking my call. host: to roberto in houston texas, good morning. caller: good morning. ukraine is self understands a very corrupt government. are we going to support a corrupt government in ukraine. in vietnam, we held up a corrupt government. why? because it was not communist. big deal. i agree with the last caller, hey, folks we just got out of 20 years in afghanistan. do we ever learn anything? i thought nato should have been disbanded when the soviet union was dissolved. let europe take care of their own problems and let's stay out of it

. >> reporter: those supporters in attendance for deniers like congressman paul gosar and ally alexandercent recalled in front of the january 6th house select comm committee. >> reporter: are you worried you might get indicted? >> thank you, arizona. thank you. thank you. >> reporter: trump giving support to two election deniers running to control elections in the states. carry lake is running for governor. >> there is a few other people i want to send to the prison in florence. anybody who was involved in that corrupt shady shotty election of 2 2020. lock them up. >> and mark said he was an oath keeper and now running for secretary of state. >> donald trump won. >> reporter: echoed qanon type conspiracy theories about elected officials. >> there is a lot of people involved in a pedophile network in a distribution of children and unfortunately, there is a whole lot of elected officials that are involved in that. >> and he continues to falsely attack the legitimacy of the 2020 election here in arizona. >> i look forward to the day that we set aside an ir redereir redeemablied flawed elect

talking about the movements of donald trump during this but what about people like mo brooks or paul gosar or jim jordan or josh hawley, what were they doing during this situation? >> running. >> we saw the picture of the before hawley holding up his arm cheering them on. they were hiding. they were praying to god that the capitol police force that was there would be able to hold the line. it is such a paradigm here. it's always do as i say, not as i do. if they come within three feet of me, i'm hiding and barricading as much as i can. their terrified of their voters and going back to donald trump, he's the useful idiot. he's not someone to be feared. he's not someone that can hold power over you. he's a useful idiot and instrument the republican party decided to make their mascot so they can actually get through the radical or racist extreme agenda. >> and it's interesting because let me play this is what the republican party stands for full stop and this is what is frightening for us for democracy. we can giggle at them and they are wimpy and weird but this is the danger. let's play a li

and people who are all the way on the right, the more extremists, muggy, caucus, lauren boebert, paul gosar types, neither of those are particular thrilled with him. that's why we've seen him again act in certain ways that have been mushy when it comes to actually calling things as they are. i do think he is looking towards november midterms,, all signs are pointing towards -- and he's doing everything he can to protect a future speakership and maintain that power. >> joyce, despite what mccarthy said months ago, it's really no surprise that he's not playing along now. does the committee's request reveal anything about what their strategy is? >> the committee's request is really detailed, stephanie. it provides a lot of background for why they want to listen to what mccarthy has to say, if you will share with them. but, one of the most interesting pieces in the letter they sent to mccarthy, in light of recent developments in the news, is this request to talk with him about his conversation with chief of staff, mark meadows, in advance of january six. and the committee kamara fires that sayi

for instance, congressman paul gosar who may have had some contact with the mob of the leaders of thefore the insurrection. are you looking at other people as well? >> we are definitely planning to file a series of these challenges. i don't want to talk about specific members just yet. but representative cawthorn is the first, but he will not be the last. >> let me pull that thread that you left at the end of your last answer about shifting the burden and something our legal analyst put us on to in north carolina law. if i think i've got the right one. chapter 163, article 127, section 5, subsection a which reads the burden of proof shall be upon the candidate who must show by a preponderance of the evidence of the record as a whole, that he or she is qualified to be a candidate for the office, which means you can bring the accusation, the allegation to the lawsuit, but it's now on him to say that no, i was not part of an insurrection. do i have that right? >> that is how the burden shifting works in north carolina. the evidence we've put forth is enough that unless he wants to commen

rally saturday also in attendance a hodgepodge of election deniers like my pillow ceo mike lindell, paul gosaren ali alexander, one of the organizers of stop the steal, who was recently called in front of the january 6th select committee. >> ali, are you worried you might get indicted? >> thank you, arizona. thank you. >> reporter: trump giving his support to two election deniers who are running to control elections in the state. carrie lake is running for governor. >> there's a few other people i'd like to send right down to the prison down here in florence. anybody who was involved in that corrupt, shady, shoddy election of 2020. lock them up. >> reporter: and mark fin exam who previously said he was an oath keeper and is now running for secretary of state. >> donald trump won. >> reporter: fin chem has echoed qanon type conspiracy theories about elected officials. >> there's people involved in a pedophile network and distribution of children, and unfortunately there's a whole lot of elected officials that are involved in that. >> reporter: and he continues to falsely attack the legitimacy o

congressman paul gosar, we have no dog in the ukraine fight.e we siding with ukraine against russia? russia is the powerhouse and we need to be allied with russia. we have no business defending ukraine in any way? >> well, russia is amassing tanks on the border. you've heard me say before, they're not showing up with ballot boxes and asking ukrainians where they want to go. we are for democracies. we are for the self-determination of peoples. authoritarian regimes when they topple democracies have not been satisfied with one as we've seen in history. there's been a lot of disappointment that the administration has not worked more diligently to get advanced weaponry and stronger weapons into ukraine that can either act as deterrence and raise the costs to russia if they invade ukraine. but this debate about who should we be for is very, very disappointing. if you look at our foreign policy and our basic values as a democracy, it's fairly easy to understand that we don't support authoritarian regimes, we don't support people using tanks to change

also in attendance a hodgepodge of election deniers like my pillow ceo mike lindell, congressman paul gosar one of the main organizers of stop the steal who went into hiding after the insurrection and was recently called in front of the january 6th house select committee. ali, are you worried you might get indicted? >> thank you, arizona. thank you. >> reporter: trump here giving his support to two election deniers who are running to control elections in the state. kari lake is running for governor. >> there's a few other people i'd like to send right down to the prison right down here in florence. anybody who was involved in that corrupt, shady, shoddy election of 2020, lock them up. >> and mark finchum who previously said he was an oath keeper and is now running for secretary of state. >> donald trump won. >> finchum hasekoed qanon type conspiracy theories about elected officials. >> there's a lot of people involved in a pedophile network in the distribution of children and, unfortunately, there's a whole lot of elected officials that are involved in that. >> reporter: he continues to fal

. >> reporter: another speaker, congressman paul gosar who led the objections to the electoral certificationngress last year. proud boys here this weekend at trump's rally. thousands of trump true briefers parroting trump's disinformation and conspiracies. >> he won the election. >> reporter: the supreme court has rejected these challenges in every swing state. >> so far. >> i feel like we were robbed that day. >> the country was robbed. >> reporter: so when you saw the insurrectionists -- >> i don't like to call them that. >> reporter: galvanizing these masses. are you going to vote in 2022? >> yes. >> reporter: do you normally vote in midterm elections? >> this is the first time. >> reporter: as his party takes on 2022. >> a great red wave is going to begin right here in arizona and is going to sweep across this country. >> vaughn nailing why you should be paying attention to arizona. we are continuing to comb through recent indictments of 11 members of the oath keepers charged with seditious conspiracy for their alleged actions leading up to the january 6th attack on the capitol. the 48-p

who worked with congressman mo brooks to whip up votes in the house, congressman paul gosar, to whip up votes in the house. congressman andy bigs to not only whip up votes in the house but also let me know who the soft senators were because he briefed them in the steering committee. boom. >> none of the lawmakers contacted by cnn responded to repeated request for comment. spokespersons for congressmen andy bigs and mo brooks have denied planning rallies or coordinating with alexander in any way. other clips unearthed alexander uses heated rhetoric about the 2020 election. >> if you believe what i believe, which is that our election was stolen, if you believe what i believe and that's that we'll never have another fair election again, then like it's time to burn the house, you know, before giving it to the enemy. >> we're going to get the outcome we need. that outcome might lead to civil war. that will be sad. there's no circumstance that i think is legitimate that joe biden should enter the white house. i think the white house should burn down, you know, and i'm not saying -- i'm not

memorable than others like this controversial animated video tweeted out by arizona congressman paul gosargiant that resembles himself appearing to kill democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez and attacking president joe biden. go satelli gosar who was censured by the house denied it was a threat. also tweeting nonsense about the big lie on january 6th. biden should concede, i want his concession on my desk tomorrow morning. on the same topic, republican congressman matt gaetz pushing this unsubstantiated claim, fbi operatives played a role in the january 6th capitol riot. piling on, marjorie taylor greene with this unfounded and unproven assertion on twitter. there was mass voter fraud on a scale that should terrify every american regardless of political party. republican congressman mo brooks also falsely claiming on twitter on january 6th evidence mounts that fascist antifa infiltrated trump rally and stormed capitol. before sowing doubt about it in his own tweet adding i don't know the true facts yet. >> that's not true, of course, the facts are plain to see, and twitter is n

in a tweet yesterday seasoned with a hint of his trademark zen phobia, congressman paul gosar said what u.s. troops die and instead just import 2 million ukrainians. that point of view also featured on carlson's segments in which he says biden is focusing on the ukraine border and not our border with mexico. marjorie taylor greene tweeted about herself naturally in the third person. with biden threatening war with nuclear russia, it's time for the committee to take up congresswoman green's first set of articles of impeachment. joe biden is compromised because of hunter biden's business dealings in ukraine. that too is part of tucker carlson's litany. if they were just merely back benchers as they would have been years ago this wouldn't be as consequential. these days, however, they're not back benchers. mike turner did go on fox and remind carlson of the stakes, reminding him that, quote, ukraine is a democracy. russia is an authoritarian regime seeking to impose its will on a democracy and we're on the side of democracy. whether it's defending putin or attack the u.s. intelligence comm

including eric swalwell, ilhan omar, in retaliation for democrats kicking marjorie taylor greene and paul gosare starting to see a glimpse of the type of payback and politically charged atmosphere that we are likely to see under a gop led house. >> hard to believe that the u.s. government can get uglier or more dysfunctional than it is now. if they live to those promises, that could very well be the case. melanie zanona, thank you so much. >>> ahead, as many as 50 democratic lawmakers are calling out the president over his strategy to get people tested for covid. is the president doing enough? i'll talk to one of those lawmakers straight ahead. at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will work with you on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep re of what you earn. narrator: on a faraway beach, the generation called "our greatest" saved the world from tyranny. in an office we know as "oval," a new-generation president faced down an imminent threat of nuclear war. on a bridge in selma, alabama, the preacher

awaiting trial for their part in the attack as “political prisoners”" here's republican congressman paul gosaronth: >> these are dads, brothers, veterans, teachers. all political prisoners who continue to be persecuted and endure the pain of unjust suffering. ( shooting ) >> reporter: so, too, with the death of ashli babbitt, the air force veteran shot by capitol police as she attempted to breach the speaker's lobby. here's republican representative jody hice of georgia in may: >> in fact, it was trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. >> nawaz: former president trump reinforced that in a july interview on fox. >> who was the person who shot an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman-- a military woman-- right in the head? >> the idea that they were all motivated by these good intentions. they believe the election was stolen which, of course, was false. it was a lie that had been peddled to them by the president and many of his allies. but they were going in and they wanted to stand up for what was right that they were sort of lik

. >> reporter: another speaker paul gosar, the congressman who helped lead the effort in congress toroud boys in 2020, members of that same extremist nationalist group here again this weekend at trump's rally. thousands of trump true believers parroting trump's conspiracies. >> he won the election? >> the supreme court has rejected the challenges in every swing state. >> it's a farce. >> i feel like we were robbed, the country was robbed. >> so when you saw the insurrectionists. >> i don't like to call them this. >> reporter: are you going to vote in 2022. >> yes, i am. >> reporter: do you normally vote in the midterm elections? >> this is the first time. >> reporter: as his party takes on 2022. >> a great red wave is begin gabe gutierrez to begin right near in arizona and it's going to sweep across this country. >> reporter: 2022 is key for donald trump, especially here in arizona after his last -- not only to prove candidates like him can win here, but also if need be come 2024 if he were to potentially lose and looking to undermine his own election here in a state like this, well,

the traditionally ceremonial processes upended by republicans, led by paul gosar and senator ted cruztexas, challenging trump's loss, sending lawmakers ttheir separate chambers to debate. >> what does it say to the nearly half the country that believes this election was rigged if we vote not even to consider the claims? -- the claims of illegality and fraud in this election. >> meanwhile, around 2:00 p.m., the eastside barricades were breached. here's what i saw from outside the capital. >> half an hour ago, barricades were breached. capitol police retreated a little bitore, then hundreds more prosters started to stream up this walkway in front of the capital. it is a remarkable scene. >> the mob tore down scaffolding, battled their way througthe last lines of defense and broke into the capital building itself. newshour congressional respondent lisa desjardins was inside the building, reporting live as it happened. >> protesters have now broken into the u.s. capitol. >> the senate was called into recess and evacuated. the mob of trump supporters roamed the historic calls, damaging pro

in a tweet yesterday, seasoned with a hint of trademark xenophobia, paul gosar wrote what if we skip part where troops die, we spend $2 trillion we don't have and leave defeated, instead just import 2 million ukrainians? that point of view, also features in carlson's segment on ukraine, in which he accuses the biden administration of focusing on ukraine's border with russia, not on our own border with mexico. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene of course also weighed in this week, tweeting about herself naturally in the third person. with biden threatening war with nuclear russia, it is time for the judiciary to take up congresswoman greene's impeachment. that, too, of course, is part of tucker carl -- carlson's litany. and if the gosars and greenes, lauren boeberts, and thomas massies of the world were nearly back-benchers as they would have been some years ago, this wouldn't be, you know, consequential. these days, however, they are not back-benchers. last month, ohio mike turner who serves on the house intel jents committee did go on fox, and remind carlson quote ukraine is a dem

the traditionally ceremonial process is upended by republicans, led by representative paul gosar of arizona senator ted cruz of texas, challenging trump's loss. >> nawaz: sending lawmakers to their separate chambers to debate. >> what does it say to the nearly half the country that believes this election was rigged if we vote not even to consider the claims of illegality and fraud in this election? >> nawaz: meanwhile, around 2:00 p.m., the east side barricades are breached. here's what i saw from outside the capitol about half an hour ago vehicle barriers that had been set up about 100 yards or so from the capitol were first breached by a group of protesters, capitol police retreated a little bit more then hundreds more protesters started to stream up this walkway in front of the capitol. it is a remarkable scene. on the west front, the mob tore down scaffolding, battled their way through the last line of police defense, and broke into the capitol building itself. newshour congressional correspondent, lisa desjardins, was inside the building, reporting live as it happened. >> judy, there a

committees -- marjorie taylor greene, spreading hateful conspiracy theories, qanon theories, and paul gosareo depicting the ail kiloling of alexandria cortz in anime. what do you make of what mccarthy said? >> he spends a lot of thinking about and talking about me and mr. schiff and i will say this. we are thinking and talking about helping people and focussing on winning midterms. he is targeting me, targeting schiff, and targeting ms. omar because we are effective. not for any other reason and this is the trumpization of politics, right? he is doing it purely for retaliation purposes and he is not even offering a fig leaf as to yes, sir doing it. it is just because we are calling him out for the ku klux klan elements that he has in his caucus, who he won't call out. so, he is projecting onto us, what he can't do with his own colleagues. >> congressman swalwell, appreciate your time. thank you. >> my pleasure. thank you. >>> up next, will chicago schools be closed for, yet, another day tomorrow as the city and teacher's union disagree on covid safety measures. the latest showdown and hear

and i'm not just talking about the obvious crazies -- the matt gaetzs, marjorie taylor greenes, paul gosarslouie gohmerts of the world -- or as gaetz called them last week -- >> the killer gs we've heard of the killer bees but now it's greene, gosar, gaetz, goode, gohmert. >> seth: "the killer gs" is a good name for that group, as every time you remember they're elected officials, your reaction is, "kill me, or jeeeesus. [ laughter ] also, you'd think if you had within the last 12 months helped foment a violent insurrection where rioters actually chanted they wanted to kill the vice-president, you'd wouldn't go by the killer gs. that's a little too on the nose. it's like we found out "the new york times" spelling bee was designed by the zodiac killer, which wouldn't surprise me [ laughter ] only a seriously twisted mind could come up with such an elaborate form of psychological torture. yesterday i spent the entire day trying to find every last word in the puzzle, and when my kids asked me what they could do to get me to make them dinner i said, "find me a word that uses all seven of these

but mccarthy's been too weak to do that, and so it required democrats to take action when paul gosaring of one of his colleagues. and similarly, when marjorie taylor greene was spouting her conspiratorial qanon and anti-semitic stuff. so, you know, it -- i think the precedent has been broken here, it's been broken by mccarthy. it doesn't surprise me, though, that he is being led, already, by these extreme elements and -- and it's one of the reasons why he could never be allowed to become speaker. more importantly, though, if i can say, erin, then whatever he might do, vis-a-vis democrats and committee assignments is the fact that he will do whatever donald trump wants him to do and if donald trump wants him to overturn the next election because trump loses again, mccarthy will do it and that is a real and present threat to our democracy. >> before we go, chairman, i need to ask you one more question. and this is something you are behind, which is a push for the biden administration to expand access to rapid covid testing. and you know, they -- they have said announced plans to purcha

so he decided to not work with paul gosar and instead found another republican to work with.schneider is not alone in deciding that. several house decided that is a standard, they do not want to work with republicans who voted against certifying state election results. there are almost 200 house republicans and 139 of those republicans voted in some way against certifying the election results. that is a large percentage right off the bat, some of these democrats are saying they do not want to work with. host: if the democrats have the majority in the house at the end of the day, to their perspective, does it matter if they have this working relation? guest: it matters because they are solving problems of america. when you do not have the people even wanting to have discussions with each other, congress gets further gummed up. certain issues that were once small, that could once make their way through congress and passed, they are getting gummed up. it is difficult for congress to pass legislation, it has been that way for years. but now you have people drawing the line in the

madison cawthorn and maybe if it's successful, on people like lauren boebert, marjorie taylor greene, paul gosarcause at some point, it comes down to the question of accountability. are these individuals going to skate while others are arrested and go to jail? is anyone above the law in our system, including the former president of the united states? so, i think this is intriguing and worth watching. >> i want to read some of your piece, harry, because most of what i know i understand from your piece as well, but i want to ask you this question. i mean, it's an open question whether anyone's going to be held accountable for the insurrection, who's actually responsible for it, and so far, the two voting rights machines companies have cases that have gone the farthest and for the most money against the fox news anchors who platformed the lies and folks like rudy giuliani and sidney powell. talk about what this sort of limitations are in terms of holding elected officials accountable. >> i mean, it does seem, at every turn, there look to be some kinds of problems. here's executive privilege. oh, th

also, we don't contactually now -- if you move to congress, how direct was paul gosar and mel brooks these guys, how closely would they working with the alexander type asks the oath keepers and the on the ground troops that had premeditated action to violence, these domestic terrorism groups. and then there is mccarthy telling the narrative and letting the chips fall -- i don't know that we should have the expectations that will change the political calculus around this. i think a lot of people saw this and decided they are okay with it. and that's a problem in our country. and that the january 6th shouldn't worry about that. they should try to get as much as they can get out and uncover as much as left uncovered. >> what is interesting when we talk about how fearful mccarthy was with his president -- and that video of them being rushed out -- i traveled with the president for five years and never was rushed like that by super service. to republicans -- they didn't go back to their offices. they were in hiding. they were in hiding as well. the white house was never locked down. i wor

january 6th, but because of recent spats that we have all seen play out publicly like congressman paul gosarg to kill congresswoman, his colleague, alexandria ocasio-cortez. that is activity we see on a daily basis since january 6th. i would say it's pretty fair to say that relationships have completely deteriorated since then. you know, republicans and democrats can't even agree on things like having metal detectors to make sure that members aren't carrying guns into the chamber or to things like wearing a mask. so that people are protected or that people are vaccinated in the house. i would say that the tension seems to be more palpable in the house. we see these tensions explode in-person right in front of us, between people like marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert, and others. but this also -- these conversations have continued to happen behind closed doors. you have, as you mentioned, and we reported, house lawmakers, some democrats, a group that refuses to vote on any piece of legislation -- they vote against any piece of legislation that's been introduced by a republican who voted

paul gosar saying "russia invading ukraine is not an immediate threat to the security of the american people, homeland, and way of life." ruben gill lego, "russia is mistaken if it believes the u.s. will stand by her cold -- standby. " caller: good morning, c-span. what a mistake. we just got out of afghanistan, not even a year ago. this idea we care about the ukraine people to the extent we are going to further engage in military industrialization, i cannot believe we are even considering it. i hope we do not go much further with this. thanks for taking my call. host: to roberto in houston texas, good morning. caller: good morning. ukraine is self understands a very corrupt government. are we going to support a corrupt government in ukraine. in vietnam, we held up a corrupt government. why? because it was not communist. big deal. i agree with the last caller, hey, folks we just got out of 20 years in afghanistan. do we ever learn anything? i thought nato should have been disbanded when the soviet union was dissolved. let europe take care of their own problems and let's stay out of it