still with us, victoria defrancesco soto and susan del percio.ecame the third republican who voted for impeachment to retire. did he have a choice here? >> not really, because first of all, new york isn't a democratically controlled when it comes to redistricting. his seat was not looking promising for him, especially since new york is, in fact, losing one congressional seat. add to that he was a target for conservatives. new york state has conservative party that was actively challenging him, and a primary was sure to happen. the ironic part is that he's someone who is seen as a centrist. he did better in 2020 in a democratic district than joe biden did by one point. so he is someone who could win a swing district, and yet the republicans will probably put up with conservatives that cannot. >> vickie, i think we all understand what donald trump's re-emergence means for republicans. what does it mean for democrats in 2022? >> well, i think -- let me back up, alicia, and really remark on how incredible the strategy is that donald trump is putting

i'm joined by susan del percio, republican strategist, and juanita tolliver, democratic strategist.nalysts. let me start with voting rights. juanita, i'll start with you. voting rights legislation will be brought to the senate floor next week. currently there is no republican support, and senators manchin and sinema have come out against changing the filibuster. which would allow the bills to pass in a simple majority vote. earlier today martin luther king's family, martin luther king iii, and others, local groups mobilized in senator sinema's backyard, pushing for voting rights to pass. are you convinced the bills will fail? if so, what should happen next? >> look, rev, hopefully the gravity of this moments gets to these senators who will be voting. let's be real. posting about martin luther king on monday, that's something schumer and other democrats are holding hope for. but the reality is, as president biden said, it's unlikely to proceed. what comes next is democrats absolutely should keep pushing, though, because, while some may look at this vote as a futile exercise, i assure

and susan del percio. political analyst and veteran political strategist. thanks for both for joining. the susan let me start with. your what is your reaction to that nbc poll? midsummer elections have traditionally had low turnout, this one is pretty vital. how do you get democrats to get excited? >> first, let me start off with, i can't believe i'm going to say, this but i agree with bernie sanders. republicans are laughing all the way, because they don't have to take a vote. the way democrats start changing the environment. is by taking votes that they can win. so, it could be small ball, it could be insulin, it could be kept at 35. dollars which was in build back better. it could be on universal pre-k. there are a lot of different votes that they can take, and get republicans on the record. i would put a 15 dollar minimum wage for those republicans who like to fancy themselves as progressives. that is how they star at least getting their base more motivated. by seeing them do something, because right now, it is like gloom and doom. it is written in the s

republican strategist susan del percio and msnbc political analyst and democratic strategist danielle moody host of the woke af podcast and co-host of democracy-ish podcast. thank you for joining me this new year. susan, let's start with the one-year mark of the capitol attack this thursday. former president trump is planning to hold a media event where he will no doubt try to spend his own narrative about what happened that day and continue to perpetuate his big lie about the 2020 election. is this helpful to a republican party that seems poised to do well in the upcoming midterm elections this year? >> good evening, rev. happy new year to you. as far as donald trump's address he calls it a news conference. it probably won't be meaning he will not take questions from reporters and my guess it will be one of his typical rants. he has not been getting the crowds he was used to or he had when president. he is becoming less effective in that manner. will there be people who turn in? yeah. but will their mind be changed if by any other information or if they turned in to listen to what is

dan percy and susan del percio thank you for coming on. >> stick around for the next hour, pennsylvanialife and legacy of betty white and her iconic career. another hour of "velshi" starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ >>> good morning and happy new year. it's saturday, january 1st. i'm mehdi hassan in for ali velshi. we are day away from the anniversary. congress will mark the first anniversary of the insurrection with a series of events at the capitol. a vigil will be held and noted historians and john meacham will also participate in a panel discussion to, quote, establish and preserve the narrative of january the 6th. that's presumably because a large faction of the republican party continues to minimize and re-write what happened on that shameful and violent day. that includes donald trump who will be holding a press conference on january 6th. the disgraced former president who was impeached for inciting the insurrection is the last person anyone should hear from on the anniversary. more than 750 across country have been arrested connected to the capitol right on the including 225 who have been

and susan del percio, political strategist,. >> vicky, i want to read you this, from senator dick durbin to new york times. he says, i'm sure they're frustrated, i am one asked this week about the chamber's inability to act on mr. biden's agenda. discussing the impact on voters ahead of the midterm elections, he added, it depends on who they they blame for it. vicky, do you agree with the senators assessment that there will be frustration -- but the question will become, at whose feet they lay that frustration. >> i have a very technical answer, which is kind of. it depends on the emotional connection that the voter has, toward the sea is going on. we have to understand the folks respond to politics both of their hearts and minds. some people may be focused with, one of the policies getting through, one of the policies not getting through. at the same time, a lot of politics is about how do i feel? is this someone who's fighting for me? it is someone who's looking? out is just a good guy? it is the protagonist? it's a lot about narrative. in my mind, i see a lot of the problem with democ

. >> i want to bring in my panel, susan del percio. and emily tisch sussman. emily, i want to start with you here, and your reaction to the censure here. nbc sources say it passed unanimously even though it is pretty wear. do you think sinema should be worried right now? >> she definitely thinks she has a political strategy, which is clearly playing to independent in the state. arizona does have -- >> sorry, i am laughing at the visitor behind you. >> oh. >> sorry. keep going. >> you know, we are lucky it's not a kid. although one might come in. >> to work from home. >> there it is. arizona definitely had its own dynamic. but do i think she should be worried. i think she has not been acknowledging through the entire time she has been in the senate how much it has been so many people in this state as congressman gallego was referencing, who helped knock on doors, funds raise, helped speak to their neighbors. there was definitely a democratic wave that hit arizona that she was a part of. but it is not everything. she has to personally appeal. and not standing up

susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc analyst, and david jolly, former congressman from floridal. this is going to be fun to get into. david, you first. you had aaron blake of the washington post who wrote this about this. if you try to script an interview that epitomized the gop's post-january 6 evolution and its rewriting of the element of the capitol right, you would struggle to do better than ted cruz's interview with tucker carlson on thursday night. what do you make of it? >> yeah. absolutely right. look, i thin ted cruz knew what he was saying had he used the word terrorist, because that's what happened. we had american citizens use terror, use force to try to interrupt a free and fair election. that makes them a terrorist. and i think the telling thing is not just ted cruz and how he wants to be everything to everybody so he can be president of the united states, which will never happen. but it also says something about where the gop is, and frankly, where conservative media is. because the narrative for the base and the narrative for gop media in a post-january 6 world,

susan del percio and david jolly. welcome to all of you. let's get right into this. idea that all of this was completely legal, according to rudy giuliani. >> well, i think we've seen what kind of attorney rudy giuliani has turned out to be. he's facing multiple legal investigations by doj. and when you listen to boris talk about that, let's not forget that michigan has referred their case of electors, that alternate slate, to doj because it was fraudulent, because they were going about this illegally. so what i notice about the interview with especially boris and peter navarro, were how -- just how much they want to continue to spread the lie, perhaps to protect themselves from legal prosecution down the road. but boy, are they just going in full hook, line, and sinker. >> and picking up on that, let's take a listen to how these witnesses described what they wanted to have happen on january 6th. here it is. >> the ellipse rally was supposed to be like the opening argument, if you will. they were supposed to present hard evidence. there was kind of the hook. and then

joining me now, susan del percio, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst.avid jolly, former congressman from florida, and msnbc political contributor. valencia johnson, former campaign consultant for the biden campaign and national director of public engagement for the warren campaign. welcome, all. it's great to have 'em back. the big lie, once again, david, unfolded last night in arizona. here is a question. is this just hurting republicans more than it's helping? how damaging is it to have trump's voice be the loudest voice going into the midterms? >> well, first, a reminder on that sound clip. donald trump himself voted by mail, and he is not in the military and he was not ill. >> right. >> in terms of hypocrisy check, check the lies but also the hypocrisy. alex, what we learned last night was the nation, the country, remains in a very perilous and dangerous position. the republican party is as strong as ever. they are probably favored to win in 2022. even though donald trump lost the popular vote twice, he very well or one of his surrogates might very

still with us, simone sanders and susan del percio, simone, question to you.en, why do you think he came so late to the voting rights battle? to publicly opposing the filibuster. he did a great speech in atlanta few weeks ago. but what was the thinking inside the white house in 2021? why put off the voting rights struggle and go for infrastructure in build back better first. we lost a lot of time, didn't we? >> i think the president was actually very frank and clear with folks about his thinking there. he did a town hall earlier in the year, in 2021. where he was asked this very question. and the president basically said, he had two legislative packages, at that point it was one big package. it was bipartisan infrastructure deal, it was broken up by -- in the build back better agenda, he wanted to get those done. in the next legislative fight he would take on would be voting rights. votes can debate and argue about whether that was the best strategy. in terms of publicly, the president himself, publicly coming out on those issues. he said why? he said he did n