an aging democracy, a beating heart, tiananmen square. the search over a new president. the communist party. a triumphant china bursting with pride, marching as one. in washington, americans at war with each other, tearing democracy apart. >> the chinese government saw that. >> xi jinping is set to have watched january 6 with revulsion. >> that cannot happen in china. no. none of that is acceptable to the chinese government. >> that was a moment for the chinese saying those americans, they're not who they think they are, and they're not who we think they are. >> you see, as the united states is in a real decline, and he sees a lot of dysfunctionalty in american society. systemic racism, black lives matter, political gridlock in washington, the trump years in charlottesville. they see themselves as promoting border against the forces of chaos, and increasingly they see the united states as representing the forces of chaos. >> there was a time when xi loved america. especially the heartland town of muscatine, iowa. he studied farming there in the 1980s. then came back just

the beating heart of communism, tiananmen square. the certification of the new american president, the 100th anniversary of the communist party. a triumph in china, bursting with pride, marching as one. in washington americans at war with each other, tearing democracy apart. >> the chinese government saw that. >> xi jinping is set to have watched january 6th with revolt. >> that cannot happen in klchin. no. none of that was acceptable to the chinese government. >> that was the moment of the chinese saying, those americans, they're not who they think they are, and they're not who we think they are. >> he sees the united states as in a real decline and he sees a lot of dysfunctionally in american society. systemic racism, black lives matter, political gridlock in washington, the trump years, charlottesville. >> they see themselves as promoting border against the forces of chaos, and increasingly they see the united states as representing the forces of chaos. >> there was a time when xi loved america. especially the heartland town of mu

we don't have tiananmen square. we have twitter.nything you do. it's a mirror of what is happening here. china's always been that way. we can't be shocked. we should be knocked by the fact on how many people will say how terrible that is but go on twitter and say cancel kat because she disagrees with me on something. >> greg: that's a fair point. it's not like the nba cares -- and china, this is what we do. screw you. america pretends to be high and mighty and we're not. >> it's worse than that. there's a huge section of shanghai where you can go there and get l.l.bean and north star, any kinds of books or clothes you want, all knockoffs. the government sort of let's it happen. >> greg: i can do that in new york. >> only on limited street corners. there's a huge section of town. when colin powell there was on the strip and looked at his chandelier in the hotel in beijing and the microphones were dangling. they didn't do a good job of tucking them away. he looks at the mics and goes "testing 1-2-3" testing. that's what they do that's

if they use the phrase "tiananmen square massacre", they're going to get arrested, aren't they?l, are you sure... there are a lot of things that people are basically putting out when making accusations, when there are no real evidence to support them. people are making accusations about, "oh, yeah, there are..." sorry, ijust asked you a simple question about... "..forced labour or genocide in xinjiang," before even being in there. when i... it was 1984. .. when it was 1989, i was five years old, 0k? so basically, without any concrete evidence, 0k, people are making all these accusations. remember iraq, like, you know, people... american government was saying that there was, like, a weapon of mass destruction and then they invaded iraq. they invaded iraq. but then after the invasion, they found nothing. so the western country — these five countries are making all these accusations without any evidence or real proof behind it. you make a big play in your politics saying you want to build the chinese identity of hong kongers. i just wonder how you feel that process is going. i look

they build in 1990s, tiananmen square, the massacre there was kind of a hiccup.oncerned. when george w. bush becomes president of u.s. in 2001, prescott bush keeps signing up deals, but now neil bush, starts to get dials, he getting a deal with a computer company that is owned by the son of chinese premier. paying neil bush a million a year, no evidence that neil bush knows anything about the computer business. this relationship has continued, then you flash forward to jeb bush, he leaves florida governorship, he goes to set up an investment fund, with dealings in london, a lot of the financing is coming from china, he connects with a chinese firm part of red air stock risy, his firm does well, thanks to the hospital of the chinese. and when jeb bush runs for president, there is an organized effort by chinese nationals linked by the chinese government to raise money for jeb bush, there is a flow of millions of dollars to jeb bush's campaign in 2016. this is along multigenerational relationship. the crescendo, today neil bush runs the bush center, they deal with u

tiananmen square massacre by the chinese government is perhaps the most censored issue in mainland china and since china has broken their agreement with great britain over hong kong, their 50-year agreement, and wiped out the political rights of the people of hong kong, talking about tiananmen and hong kong is cause for arrest. even the suggestion of simply lighting a candle. the chinese government tightens its grip on hong kong. it wants to raise -- erase all information or history related to it, just as they've done on the mainland -- that in regard to tiananmen square. just as they want to suppress the voices of people in tibet, just as they want to wipe out the xinjiang muslim community, they want to make sure that any form of potential resistance to the beijing government and their version of the world is silenced. and as we've seen far too many times over and over again, these silenced people who speak up against them in any way. this is li yuhan. she is eight 65. she is sea a human rights lawyer known in china's human rights community aces big sister -- in china's human rights com

for them for example, there's no such thing as the tiananmen square massacre. number five, party control of the military. all major military decisions are approved by the central committee of the communist party in accordance with miles maxson political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. and finally, six. a centrally controlled economy. here one could argue socialism with chinese characteristics is some kind of a difference from out and out marxism but such chinese characteristics were not talking here about soft democratic capitalism but hard marxist socialism in which all central decisions are made by the ccp. you know, visitors to china and i was there a little over a decade ago are often misled by the many skyscrapers that beijing, shanghai and other major cities. those skyscrapers are not capitalist observations. they are owned by the ccp, the pla or the sons and daughters of the party elite. so only with regard to a centrally controlled economy, can it be argued that china is perhaps authoritarian, not totalitarian. but there is no sign and quite the

imagine one of them wants to say something about tiananmen square or talk about the wuhan institute of virology, the chance of them getting their exit visa will be low. beijing is the most survailed city in the world whether it's their cell phones or ipads or whatever it is, or something they're saying to someone else, you can bet the chinese communist party will be able to track everything they do, every place they go and everything they say. they'll record it. it'll be used for chinese communist party purposes for time ongoing. >> laura: just days ago, this is a little notice story in the "washington post," it revealed china was mining for social media data on westerners, a post review of bidding documents and contracts were of 300 chinese projects since the beginning of 2020 includes orders for software designs to collect data on foreign targets from sources such as twitter, facebook and other western social media. i guess i'm in trouble, mr. secretary. ask me if i care. no one has covered this except this one piece thankfully in the "washington post." >> you know, i hadn't seen the

you are talking about an organization that has denied and covered up the tiananmen square massacre.t is currently overseeing a genocide in jing jiang. y put it past them. they have covered up covid two and a half years. we still don't have the live vice sample no. independent scientist or doctor or even a real team from the w.h.o. that can go in and find out what the origins of covid are and the chinese communist party wants to make sure it will never happen. and i can tell you from the first days when we learned about covid, president trump and mike pompeo were incredibly skeptical. we started sounding the alarm very early on at the state department that we thought the chinese were hiding something two and a half years later. they still are and they faced no consequences. >> bret: what's frustrating is there is this effort that you see in emails to kind of squelch any other talk. on the definition of scientists to try investigate and get to the truth. but, in these emails at least privately, there is only one narrative that they want out there. >> yeah, i'm very curious to hear not

that the olympics are coming and that people are excited so, say for example in the area around tiananmen squareon dances where people celebrate. this is a time china will be excited not only for the lunar new year but the olympics. one thing with the lion dances, the lion actually gets a covid tested but it's in the mouth. so nothing for you to worry about. >> okay. all right. well, i don't know, i don't think i'd like to give a reallyion a covid test anywhere that we had talked in the past, eunice, but thank you for referencing our prior conversations, which you know are you up to date on everything we appreciate that i don't know, i'm worried ontario if you are going to lock down, the number of cases you are talk about number a place with billions of people sounds bizarre to me. i don't know how you run an olympics if have you zero tolerance. >> i think the chinese say it's the opposite, that they feel there has to be zero tolerance in order to have a successful olympics they want ph to make sure nobody gets sick inside or outside the closed loop system gets ill. they think that clamping down

we saw that in 1989 with the teaen men -- tiananmen square protests.e question is what can or should the united states do and that's something that the biden administration is really grappling with here. their first instinct here is to talk. there's nothing wrong with talking. but what they really need to do is to make a cold calculation here about what's in the u.s. national interest, what our partners are willing to do, what we're willing to do within the constraints that we have and in terms of kazhakstan, we're not probably going to send troops into kazhakstan. we can support the people there. we have significant energy investments, some 40% of uranium is produced there but i think there's a greater national interest in ukraine than there may be in central asia, although you don't want to see the russian power extend over kazhakstan once again as it did in soviet times. maria: it's great analysis as always from you, mary. good to see you. thanks very much, mary kissel joining us this morning from stephens. we'll see you soon, thank you. we want to

on security charges, shuts down an independent free press, bans peaceful remembrance of the tiananmen squaresacre, commits crimes against humanity, this is from the committee for freedom in hong kong. a full-page ad today. calling from georgia, donald is up next on the democrats line. we had. caller: i just heard the comment toward the guy that felt like blacks do not need anything else. my concern is this. america has always looked over blacks. our constitution is designed -- it has been designed to continually allow for racism to always exist. and it was created so that racism would always exist. and it has never been ratified, and we are still dealing with the -- those implications, and we are still dealing with that constitution, and the state's constitution, and this is why we see laws like georgia yesterday implemented the crt not to be taught in schools, which is truth concerning black history. we are more than slavery. no, we still deal with the fact that president hansen still is not given credit for building this country. we talk about george washington, when he was given the job b