defazio and the resilience package so we can provide assistance. we sent a letter to fema talking about an equitable distribution that needs to be considered. i look forward to working with fema during 2022, the committee stands ready to do what congress can to assist fema's efforts and we want to hear how fema tries to meet the open recommendations from the gao that addresses these across the program. i hear from mr. curry of the gao can prioritize 50 open issues and i want to hear from emergency management books the national emergency management association and international association of emergency management. they are on the front lines and can tell us how they think things can be improved and work and need to make adjustments. i look forward to the hearing and think the witnesses for being here and i will now turn to mr. webster and the opening statement. >> we can't hear you, mr. webster's. >> okay, great. thank you, i want to say fema has a mission critical to our nation but also the state of florida, my home state. federal government respon

>> thank you for that question, chair defazio.y of the autonomous vehicle companies have stated that the infrastructure needed is not different from the current infrastructure of drivers today. we can all benefit from improved growth, fewer potholes and better lines, but the information that we've received in houston is that these vehicles will operate with of the infrastructure that we currently have in the cities. >> are some of them dependent on cameras -- they use different ways of navigating, and if anyone would like to comment, because i'm concerned that when many states don't have the repair at the top of their list, there are many roads that don't have adequate lines or marking s and other things that many of the vehicles are dependent upon the range more widely. does anyone want to comment on that? >> yes, mr. chair, i can comment on that. i think being in a city that just experienced a pretty horrific bridge collapse, and thank goodness there were no fatalities, the point you raised is really important to understand arou

>> thank you for your question, chairman defazio. faa operates, you know, large, complex infrastructure of interconnected networks and services. we have many service providers, includes satellite-based communications, you know, automated communications between aircraft, et cetera. this crossed system has become very, very complex. you know, most of our challenges, really, are around the purpose-built, you know, legacy systems in operation today. these systems are operated 24/7, 365. they require extensive testing and operate custom-built software. really, they don't allow remote patching capabilities so, you know, keeping up with the cyber hygiene component is a fairly large challenge from, and, you know, an faa air traffic control perspective. we protect that system, though, through compensating controls, meaning that, you know, that network, while it's very difficult to patch and update, it is very difficult to get, to attach to as well. it's not -- it doesn't have internet access. there are very mature access control lists. in oth

>> thank you for your questions chairman defazio. the faa operates large complex infrastructure of interconnected networksand services . we have many service providers including satellite-based communication , automated communications between aircraft etc. the system has become very complex . you know, most of our challenges really are around the purpose built legacy systems in operation today. these systems are operated 24 seven, 365. they require extensive testing and operate custom-built software. really they don't allow remote detaching capabilities so keeping up with the cyber it component is a fairly large challenge in faa, from an air traffic control perspective. we protect that system through compensating controls meaning that that network while it's difficult to pass and update, it is very difficult to get too attached to as well. itdoesn't have internet access . there are very mature access control lists. in other words system a can only system b over a very specific port with specific protocols and everything else is not a

defazio, you are recognized. representative defazio: thank you, mr. chairman. thanks, mr. dickson, for being with us today. as we said, we understand what happened and want to be certain it does not happen again, but we are in sort of a temporary hold here. it is not totally clear to me and, i think, others what happens at the end of the six months voluntary period. i have had some say it is not limited to six months and others saying yes, it is. for instance, where they have turned off towers in proximity to airports with cap three approaches and low visibility issues -- i mean, how is this going to be solved long term, and how long do the temporary measures stay in place and what do we do internally? mr. dickson: all parties are working together very effectively and we agreed to take all steps that -- agreed to take all steps necessary -- to work in good faith to determine the next steps. so far the telecom companies, as i mentioned have agreed to refrain from activating their 5g towers that are on excessively close to runways, which we continue to revise. they are also

i signed the letter congressman peter defazio was one of the leaders on. the president indicated over and over again in no way does he intend to allow or insert ground troops. with the increase intentions we wrote the letter because we want to make sure the war powers is complied with and the public understands the president means what he says, because he is not going to insert ground troops into this possible incursion. [indistinct chatter] >> we have been trying to do this for a while and one of the challenges we face is coming to agreement on what is the scope, what would the president be allowed to do? what is the scope? what is the geography? what is the timetable of it all? and frequently that has been, shall we say, controversial. >> [indiscernible] >> we are staying on security. >> [indiscernible] >> if i sound repetitive, it is because i am. this is a unified effort by our allies in the nato alliance and what was proposed was what was agreed to in terms of timing. there are arguments about you go in. well, what is the leverage once they go in abou

defazio: i thank you, madam chair. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. defazio: thank you for getting us to this point and to the ranking member today. this has been languishing here for more than a decade and we're finally there. the two largest elements of this bill, the mention by representative connelly, the mandate that was stuck in midnight in a conference and no one knew it was there. it was back during the bush administration. they were trying to kill off the postal service. you will prepare health care for the next 75 years of employees. that means people who weren't born yet, people who might go to work for the postal service someday, might retire, we were preparing their health care. that has been an incredible burden on the postal service. and without that, now that's going to be fixed, we are going to do away with that, that is a bill i carried for many years, the usps fairness act. we had 277 co-sponsors on this bill in this congress. i'm glad it was part of the key r

you know, peter defazio had the house hearing and he's from oregon. really it's not acceptable for agencies to have conflict like this. here's what he said. >> everybody else has taken measures to protect aviation, but we didn't until the last minute. and it's a temporary agreement. and something has to be worked out long term in the next six months. we cannot have conflicting industries. having a dropped call is way less serious than having a dropped airplane out of the sky. >> reporter: the head of the fcc was not at this hearing today, she had a scheduling conflict. the head of the faa said he is continuing to work with the cell phone companies. he said there could be a long-term solution sometime soon but probably not until next year, jake. >> lawmakers also wondered if people's personal cell phones are making the problem worse. so is it actually critical for passengers to switch their phones to airplane mode? >> reporter: it's a good question because airplane mode has been required on commercial flights since 2013. but the faa says the real conce

they have had to pay money as a result of this, congressman defazio who led the congressional investigationist, the financial burden. nobody has spent any time in prison as a result of this and mullenburg walked away with $62 million. the head of boeing at the time who oversaw the company during these crashes. >> dana: we can see the documentary on netflix. thank you for giving us a preview. >> bill: very interesting there. before we get out of here i want to tell you about the florida judge temporary blocking the release of details in the investigation of saget's death. his daughters filed a lawsuit for seeing the public records. he was found unresponsive in his hotel room in orlando a month ago. autopsy revealed he suffered blunt head trauma after falling and cracking his skull. >> dana: family in grief and having to do some legal work as well. before we go check this little thing out. well, i want you to meet rosie the penguin. she was born with skeletal issues and made it hard for her to get around so her caretakers in arizona built her like a baby bouncer and it helped her learn how to

defazio: madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. brown of maryland, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. brown will vote nay on the steel amendment. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from tennessee seek recognition? mr. fleischmann: madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. loudermilk of georgia, i inform the house that mr. loudermilk will vote yea on amendment number 239. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina seek recognition? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. lamalfa, i inform the house that mr. lamalfa will vote yea on amendment 239. >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. laturner from kansas, i inform the house that mr. laturner will vote yea on the amendment number 239. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from north carolina seek recognition? >> madam speaker, pursuant to house res. 8, i inform the house that ms. adams will vote nay on steel amendment 239. the speaker

. >> thank you, chairman larson and chairman defazio, for holding this hearing on aviation safety and the impact of 5g. thanks to all the witnesses. as many of our witnesses have alluded to today, there is currently a two mile restriction in deploying 5g among most major public airports in this country, including midway airport in chicago. let me be clear. as part of the interim orders to preserve aviation safety, including the two mile restriction of 5g deployment, there are certain trade-offs to these orders. midway airport is unusual because there are a lot of residents who live right around the airport. the airport is about one square mile and is surrounded by working-class neighborhoods directly across the street, as this map shows. many of you might have experienced this flying into midway, where planes go pretty close over homes. it is always an exciting landing experience. this poster behind me shows the two mile radius that constituents of mine live around. they are primarily latino and black and lack access to quality broadband. in fact, my own district office, which is thre

defazio who led the investigation, the congressional investigation against boeing concluded that thising walked away from this with $62 million. >> you know, we all covered this every day in the news. we covered the legal proceedings as well. what was it about the story that made you want to dig in and turn it into a documentary? >> 346 people died, you know, we all fly. i fly, my kids fly. i actually have a bit of a fear of flying and i really wanted to understand what happened. who knew what, when, who was responsible for these crashes and hopefully learn something from that to prevent this from ever happening again. >> what shocked you the most as you were studying it? >> well, i think the thing that was most upsetting. there were a lot of revelations in the course of this documentary but i think the thing that was most upsetting was the report that was done between the first crash and the second crash so as many of us know, these two crashes same plane, the 737 max happened within five months of each other. between those two crashes there was a report done with the support of the