dr. lucyand a little bit more about who we should be listening to. dr. lucy mcbride, thank you for being here. i appreciate it. >> thanks, laura, for having me. >> obviously there's confusion. i just have to ask, who should people be following? obviously politics has a way of seeping into all these discussions. but when the average person is figuring out to mask or not to mask, that is the question, who are they listening to for the answers? >> it's a great question, and i think for two years people have been starved for clear, transparently communicated facts and data and a framework within which they can make complex decisions to protect themselves, their families, and their communities. i'm a primary care doctor. i don't know everything. but i do know a few things about helping people manage risk, managing their risk for severe outcomes from covid-19, managing their risk for diabetes, dementia, heart disease. at this moment in the pandemic, laura, where we have been blessed with incredibly

we want to bring in dr. lucy mcbride, practicing internist and author of a popular covid newsletter, who has been advocating for this type of action now for some time. dr. mcbride, make clear, what is different about where we are today than 18 months ago? >> john, thanks so much for asking that great question. in march 2020, when we knew very little about the virus, it was all hands on deck. it was protect against covid at all costs, right? we didn't know that there was such an enormous gradient -- difference in the risk that covid presents to adults, compared to children. we also then didn't have wonderful vaccines that are extraordinarily safe and effective and that take the claws and the fangs away from the virus and turn it into a more manageable illness. we also didn't have the knowledge that we do now, that kids transmit the virus less than adults do. last, we didn't know what we know now about how to protect our most vulnerable citizens. we vaccinate, we boost, we test when we're sick, we stay home when we

let's learn more right now and cross live to dr. lucy and bologna, who's a sports lawyer acting before the court of arbitration. a very good morning to you . so thanks for coming on the program here. what is the worst over for value? what reaction you expect from the i o. c and water now? well, they will not be happy, but in the end, i think it's the only right decision that was to be made because nobody knows what in the end will happen. but to not allow have would have been the worst. because imagine she would in the and the ongoing other proceed that she would ring. and then she had, would have not been able to compete. and now they allowed her to compete. and that is the right thing. i wanted to ask you. so the, the court of patricia for sport has said that they see a huge problem in the fact that the test result came back. so late, what do you read into that? i think that me probably already know too many days ago. now the rules are clear, it must be within 20 days of the stay. wait, it's so long. and the explanation for the delay was not very convincing. what we heard khatri x is

while sports law, especially dr. lucy in bologna, told us the cast ruling is an important step, but the case is not over. these is the only road position to work that was to be made because nobody knows what in the end will happen, but to not allow her would have been the worst. all depends what the explanation means. but it seems that rose out already lifted the suspension that there must be a good reason now. cos need also follow the rules are clear, it must be wishing 20 days and the stay wait. it's so long. and the explanation for the delay was not very convincing. what we heard khatri s e co beach related delay. i don't believe that. i think the b test must, must produce the results. and then the whole case will be decided and of course it's not over, but i think an important step was the role, the latest reaction and analysis running the valley of a case and much more. so he had to r t dot com where you can also sharing your views in the comments. always good to hear what you're thinking. there is being quite a stir in the media over the image of a machine gun toting, grunting. he

where we spoke to a number of experts on this, including sports law specialist, dr. lucy, in bologna. he believes the cast ruling is unimportant step, but the case itself is not over. this is the only road position to work that was to be made because nobody knows what will happen, but to not allow have would have been the worst. all depends what the explanation is. but it seems that rose out already lifted the suspension that there must be a good reason. now costs need also follow rules. the rules are clear. it must be wishing 20 days of the stay wait. it's so long. and the explanation for the delay was not very convincing. what we heard khatri s e co beach related delay. i don't believe that. i think the b test must, must produce the results. and then the whole case will, will be decided. and of course, it's not over, but i think an important step was the for all the latest reaction analysis as well as writing their believe a case and much more besides head on over to r t dot com. you can sure your views and the comments almost good to hear what you're thinking of. now there's been q

we caught up with sports lawyer, dr. lucy and bologna, who explained why he backs the decision of the court of arbitration of sports. the serious panel also emphasized that there were serious issues of untimely notification of the results of the athletes. and i'd open test that was performed in december 2021 which impinge upon the athletes ability to establish certain legal requirements for her benefit. while such late notification was not her fault in the middle of the olympic winter games, beijing, 2022. while we, let's say jeff, listen to a very short statement by the secretary general of the court of arbitration for the sports matthew read. it wasn't even a press conference. no questions were allowed to be asked by journalists, which sparked some anger among the colleagues of mine. he, inside the room, the room was actually packed. obviously no other story here at the olympics has been waking, has been making so much noise has been causing so much residence and the story from your body. by here, it seemed for a moment that people forgot that that actually is the lympics and you kn

well, earlier dr. lucy and w. baloney, who's a leading lawyer specializing in sports arbitration told me how young athletes, especially need to be protected from unproven allegations. it's not good that the name is mentioned and i think we should protect miners, especially when we search strong allegations. that is the reason why i think it's very premature to, to say she has not dock. as you know, any domini allegation does harm the image of any at it at any time. and that is the reason why these information, also sensitive and true, never ever has been closed. and even i seen the point of the i see which, which they made a mistake in my, in my curious to suspend the ceremony, which clearly made to the public and clear that this was something strange and, and that is not good. so everybody could could find out who could be suspected and i see even that was not a good point on what other headline, news, than of the canadian prime minister's been grilled in parliament. as the capital remains gripped by mass coven vaccine mandate, protests opposition and p. say the government, negative

practicing internist dr. lucy mcbride joins us.. it is good to have you on. willie. >> randi, let me begin with you, the cover on the "new york post", "free the smiles" because we had the domino effect in the last couple of days. you had delaware, new jersey, connecticut yesterday saying they're ending the mask mandates in schools. do you think it is a good idea? >> i think we have to be talking about the off ramp for masks, and we asked for that conversation that's based upon science instead of politics back in november before omicron. the governor in new jersey made some pretty -- was pretty good in terms of the basis for it. he said that vaccinations are up in new jersey, that the numbers, community spread is really low now, and the spread in schools is really low. >> yeah. >> so, you know, what we asked for in november, and i'm glad you have lucy on as well, is a metric that was based in science so that we could ultimately have an off ramp for masks. no one wants masks in schools, not teachers, not students. but, you know, it i

for more on this, i want to bring in dr. lucy mcbride, a contributor"the washington pos." h us is dr. natalie azar, rheumatologist and msnbc news medical contributor. dr. say czar, new jersey, delaware, connecticut, all planning to end mask mandates in the next several weeks. what's your reaction to these decisions? >> i can tell you, i feel like my reaction is as mixed as expert reaction has been, if you've been following any of the public health experts that we've been following for the last two years. and this is where i think the argument falls along a couple of lines. public health tools, such as masks and mitigation strategies are to be used during surges and relaxed when cases go down. but some experts have said, well, okay, yes, we see the cases going down, but we also have to think about spread. yesterday, we had the highest number of cases since last april. we still have over 2,000 deaths per day. and if we're talking about the protection the vaccines afford, well, only 22% of kids ages 5 to 11 are vaccinated and about 56% of kids 12 to 17 are vaccinated. and so t

dr. lucy mcbride, i'm grateful to you for joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. judy: pharmacists and pharmacy workers have gotten far less attention an other health care workers duringhis pandemic, but the stress and pressure they face has been intense. just weeks ago, as omicron was surging and many staff were getting sick, major pharmacy chains and independent stores had to reduce their hours, even close down at times. while that immediate situation s improved, staffing shortages and working conditions have been a problem throughout the pandemic. moreover, pharmacy technicians earn very little. here's some of what we heard from pharmacists themselves. >> my name is dr. bled tanoe. i am a pharmacist. i used to work for a major chain pharmacy here in oklahoma city. w i work inpatient as a pharmacist. >> my name is david hale. i'm an overnight pharmacist working for one of the large national retail chains. i've been a pharmacist for about seven years now. >> hello, my name is dr. lannie duong, i'm a clinical pharmacist in california. >> hi, i'm dr. jennifer morro

county families opting for online last year prefer staying virtual dr. lucy says this is due to poor messaging. >> what that survey really underlies is the absolute urgent need to reach our most vulnerable populations with clear, transparent and nuanced information because, again, it's so important for kids to be in-person for school. >> reporter: for now the mandate is in place and parents like lydia are forced to make other plans. >> i welcome home schooling. i found a pod we're going to be a part of. >> reporter: los angeles is among the first district to adopt a student vaccine mandate and always faced pushback in court. the deadline is set for this fall how it's enforced and the impact on student education will be closely watched across the country. shep >> seema mody, live in los angeles. >>> scientists estimate 10% to 30% of covid patients will experience long covid. symptoms that last at least a month after infection and sometimes much longer. the cdc reports symptoms can include brain fog, trouble sleeping, heart palpitation, mood swings and many oth

let's bring in dr. lucythe washington post." it's great to have you with us. dr. murthy focused on the stigma around mental health and seeking help, the lack of access to good, affordable mental health care, in particular, for children and young adults, young adolescents. what's your experience with seeing that? >> you know, it warms my heart that vivek murthy is calling attention and sounding the alarm on this parallel pandemic of mental health and crisis. you know, mental health was sort of the stepchild of healthcare before the pandemic. diseases of despair were rampant before coronavirus landed on the scene, and now, after 22 months of lives upended, 900,000 american lives lost, ongoing death and despair as a result of the pandemic, and from the restrictions itself, it's not surprising to anyone seeing patients every day that people are undone. i see patients in my office as a primary careday. i see patients as a primary care doctor, i see adolescents. adolescents in particular are suffering from depress

dr. leana wen, thanks as always. we appreciate it. >>> state of emergency has been declared in ontario, canada, as a blockade by truckers protesting covid-19 vaccination rules is crippling trade with the u.s. cnn's lucy us. lucy, looks like you have got a situation going on behind you right now. what is the latest? >> reporter: jim, you can see and hear the demonstrators behind me. they have been holding firm, despite the cold, despite the wet weather of their blockade of the ambassador bridge, that critical route into detroit, michigan. now, a canadian judge has ordered the protestors to end their five-day blockade, which has disrupted the flow of goods between the two countries. that is set to take effect at 7:00 p.m. tonight, less than an hour from now. it is not clear, at this point, when or if law enforcement will descend on this area to forcibly remove them but the protestors did take a vote minutes ago, promising to link arms and remain here on this location. they are not dispersing. the mayor of windsor, ontario, threatening to start towing cars away if the protestors don't leave. the premiere of ontario, declaring a state of emergency as you pointed out with severe consequences, fines for no