wood, matthew spalding in the 1619 project. >> joining us on book tv is doctor deidre mccroskey. she is the author of over 30 books a long time economist with the university of illinois at chicago. her most recent you can watch this program on her website booktv. org and use the search box of the top of the page look for peter wood, matthew spalding in the 1619 project. joining us on book tv is doctor deidre mccroskey. she is the author of over 30 books a long time economist with the university of illinois at chicago. her most recent book veteran human onyx is just out. when you mimi a human onyx. i >> i am an hopeful economist. but i'm also a historian and i thought as a professor of english and philosophy. i think that economics shouldn't give up the math or the numbers or anything like that. but it should add to it when we can learn from the unanimous, from shakespeare. greta. mozart, for that matter. i learned a lot from mozart, every time i hear the flute and harp concert him, so it's an all hands on deck idea, but in order to truly understand our economic lives we have to u