rubino, how did this project get started? well, it really got started when i was probably about nine years old and i actually started watching c-span. i'm kind of a congenital political. junkie. i don't know where it kind of formulated for some reason. i just kind of had this gravitational pull to it and had this interest specifically in kind of the minutiae the facts and it was interesting the so that so it became a political author the first book i wrote was about a little known facts in american politics then i did a book tour and people asked about quotation. so i did a book about political quotations in american politics, and i know one that was kind of all encompassing because i was really looking for kind of a political trivia book just to buy now i could find were presidential trivia books and many were just question answer question answer so came up with the idea. i have all this information kind of inside my head. i want to put it together in some sort of attribute game, but also one where you can learn something so

rubino, how did this project get started?well, it really got started when i was probably about nine years old and i actually started watching c-span. i'm kind of a congenital political. junkie. i don't know where it kind of formulated for some reason. i just kind of had this gravitational pull to it and had this interest specifically in kind of the minutiae the facts and it was interesting so that so it became a political author the first book i wrote was about a little known facts in american politics then i did a book tour and people ask about quotation. so i did a book about political quotations in american politics 9 to one that was kind of all encompassing. i was really looking for kind of a political trivia book just to buy all i could find were presidential trivia books and many were just question answer question answer so came up with the idea. i have all this information kind of inside my head. i want to put it together in some sort of attribute game, but also one where you can learn something so it's educative as we

rubino, how did this project get started? well, it really got started when i was probably about nine years old and i actually started watching c-span. i'm kind of a congenital political. junkie. i don't know where it kind of formulated for some reason. i just kind of had this gravitational pull to it and had this interest specifically in kind of the minutiae the facts and it was interesting the so that so it became a political author the first book i wrote was about a little known facts in american politics then i did a book tour and people asked about quotation. so i did a book about political quotations in american politics, and i know one that was kind of all encompassing because i was really looking for kind of a political trivia book just to buy now i could find were presidential trivia books and many were just question answer question answer so came up with the idea. i have all this information kind of inside my head. i want to put it together in some sort of attribute game, but also one where you can learn something so

rubino, how did this project get started? well, it really got started when i was probably about nine years old and i actually started watching c-span. i'm kind of a congenital political. junkie. i don't know where it kind of formulated for some reason. i just kind of had this gravitational pull to it and had this interest specifically in kind of the minutiae the facts and it was interesting the so that so it became a political author the first book i wrote was about a little known facts in american politics then i did a book tour and people asked about quotati.

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it all began at about 6 30 monday morning, angelica rubino was dropping off pastries that leads sprofee shop in the mission bay neighborhood. when a woman stole her suv in my mind, i was thinking like that can't be my car. this can't be happening right now. rabinovitch medically told lee what had happened. he jumped into his tesla model y, which comes with video cameras. he caught up to her near seventh and brandon in the south of market. he kept his distance at first not wanting to spook her. but soon she realized he was following her. she started driving erratically, she ended up doing a lot of you turns. she took a few u turns and i had to take the same u turns. and obviously that made her drive. you can faster and if you look closely, you can see a cop car right in front of her. she quickly made another turn. lee had already called 911 dispatchers, warning that it might not be safe for him to follow. but he said he was okay. honestly i was too deep in the game. i didn't you know, there's already chasing for you know, after her for about 78 minutes, probably at that time they pass

it all began at about 6 30 monday morning, angelica rubino was dropping off pastries at leas spro coffeeon bay neighborhood. when a woman stole her suv in my mind, i was thinking like that can't be my car. this can't be happening right now. roberto frantically told lee what had happened. he jumped into his tesla model y, which comes with video cameras, he caught up to her near seventh and bread in the south of market. he kept his distance at first not wanting to spook her. but soon she realized he was following her started driving erratically. she ended up doing a lot of you turns. she took a few u turns and i had to take the same u turns. and obviously that made her drive. you can faster and if you look closely, you can see a cop car right in front of her. she quickly made another turn. lee had already called 911 dispatchers, warning that it might not be safe for him to follow. but he said he was okay . honestly i was too deep in the game. i didn't you know there is already chasing for you know, after her for about 78 minutes, probably at that time they passed the caltrain yard. and end

rubino. thanks for spending a few minutes with us on about books. thanks. it was great to be on the night then the the station that i dedicated the book to. listen to full episodes of about books on the c-span now app or wherever you get your podcasts or watch it online at booktv.org. as we just witnessed the one-year anniversary of the insurrection at the us capitol right here in dc near blocks from where i am sitting and talking to you right now. this book could not be more. timely mark bowden and matthew teague are seasoned writers and journalists who have joined forces on the steel a week by week state by state account of the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. working with the team of researchers and reporters the authors uncovered never before told accounts from the election officials fighting to do their jobs amid outlandish claims and threats to themselves their colleagues and their families. moderating the conversation is peter baker the chief white house correspondent for the new york times responsible for reporting on president bid