sarah, he's having me as an associate professor globalization at the university of antwerp embassy seat in cuba. as a professor at the catholic university of chicago in eastern dia, congo, he focuses on natural resources in the environment. oh, and i should mention one more guest at the table is you, if you're watching this on youtube, see that box over there? we have a live stream producer waiting to get your comments to me so i can get him in the show. we can all be a part of this discussion. speaker discussion cream. tell us about 7 grams. like where'd you get the idea for this? well, in 2015 i was in eastern congo and it was photographing outside of miners in the golden catheter mines in cuba, north cable. and i realized photographing it was my smartphones to where you know, extracting the romito was in a hiding my hands. jen product and i mean, i thought there was something to do about that. ah, i must have struck in a sense of irony that, that the very thing they were digging out of the rock there you are actually using in that moment to capture that moment. yeah, i mean, it was j