joining us now david remnick. thank you very much for joining us tonight. how much or what if any of presidents biden's speech last night well the russian people here? >> very little. almost as much as though here from president zelenskyy. i think it's impossible to overestimate the can umbrella of censorship and silence that the russian officials creates. it's pumping out propaganda at a rate that would, i hope, shame even those a fox news. it's really quite extraordinary. and the only way that russians can get the information that you're talking about, whether it's by the address, or zelenskyy's extraordinary speeches to his own people into the world, or just trade information about what's going on is through other means. and those other means, southern of them got shut down this yesterday, a tv rain -- rare independent media were shut down. and, this is an information war. and this is why president zelenskyy is so incredibly skillful and uniting his own people and uniting the countries of the world behind the principles of sovereignty and democracy. this

joining us now david remnick. thank you very much for joining us tonight.or what if any of presidents biden's speech last night well the russian people here? >> very little. almost as much as though here from president zelenskyy. i think it's impossible to overestimate the can umbrella of censorship and silence that the russian officials creates. it's pumping out propaganda at a rate that would, i hope, shame even those a fox news. it's really quite extraordinary. and the only way that russians can get the information that you're talking about, whether it's by the address, or zelenskyy's extraordinary speeches to his own people into the world, or just trade information about what's going on is through other means. and those other means, southern of them got shut down this yesterday, a tv rain -- rare independent media were shut down. and, this is an information war. and this is why president zelenskyy is so incredibly skillful and uniting his own people and uniting the countries of the world behind the principles of sovereignty and democracy. this is a comi

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joining us two journalists writing about russians for decades, david remnick and masha gessen who hashe scattering." david, let me start with you because i want to get your reaction to that video from arnold schwarzenegger who has a huge following in russia, in fact, one of only 22 accounts that vladimir putin on twitter follows. do you think schwarzenegger's message or any other message like that is going to be able to break through what people are calling the kremlin's digital iron curtain? >> i think it's age dependent to some degree. i think older people in general depend almost entirely for their news on state television. it's very hard to imagine for our viewers here how complete a propaganda role that is. younger people who are much more web oriented and know how to operate a vpn, which is fairly simple, have the capacity and call on the capacity to get behind that digital wall. so yes, i think things like schwarzenegger or western news outlets or other kinds of truth-telling capacities are getting through. but it's certainly not to the degree that we want. it's going to take t

david remnick joins me right now. i know you've been in contact with colleagues over there that are part of the small, but incredibly brave and important russian free press. and from what i can tell, from what i've read, they are under pressure, unlike any they have encountered thus far. what is your set? >> not just under pressure, they're getting shut down. and any number of them have gotten on airplanes and left the country, because they fear for their liberty, they fear for their families. and there's rumors and moscow -- again, rumors i emphasize, of possible declaration of martial law. and you saw that proposal, that's what i'm gonna call, or a proposal, because it's almost inevitable that it becomes law. and people that they are to demonstrate on the street won't just get broken up or arrested, they would be conscripted. this is what passed for high comedy in the russian regime of today. it seems to me, chris, there are two things very vital that vladimir putin has always feared. he has always feared his own pe

editor of "the new yorker" david remnick. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> mika, following up on what david and katty were saying, again, going back to what your father would write throughout the cold war -- again, it is important because it explains not only what was going on 40 years ago, it explains what is going on right now. your father wrote repeatedly that russia was a one-dimensional power. that they had failed to develop economic capacity. they had failed to develop technology. they had failed to develop a political system that other countries wanted exported. they had failed culturally. they had failed in every dimension. so their only power was the power to disrupt. not the power to expand, but the power to disrupt the existing global order. they would do that, and even that part your father said in 1983 was limited because it depended on military, brute force with the military and nuclear weapons, which also even limited that single dimension. so katty is so right. their insecurity and their expansionism have a

let's bring in editor of "the new yorker" david remnick and senior fellow for strategy and security, good to have you all with us this morning. >> so, david, i wanted to go back to something that fiona hill said, and that is vladimir putin's miscalculation from paying too much attention to donald trump and the trump years. this weekend one of my children said they had never really seen what they're seeing now in class, and that is where people on both sides of the i i don't logical divide, they're no longer debating in social studies two completely different views of the word. she said people are all telling the stories they're picking up from ukrainian social media. they're talking about the sunflower seed story, they're talking about the ads. it is really an extraordinary moment and one that vladimir putin and, quite frankly, a lot of americans probably could not have foreseen, a unified america and a unified nato. >> well, up to a point. >> up to a point, right. >> because donald trump, donald trump doesn't seem part of that unity. you know, for years, information years we have bee

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david remnick is a pulitzer prize-winning author and editor in chief. he's written extensively on russia, ukraine and putin. his latest piece is called a russian journalist who stayed behind. david, i've been following your coverage of this and learning a lot from it. you had a great interview with stalin -- a stolen biographer, a legendary towering figures of russian history. he makes a lot of arguments for continuity here. it did seem today, at this rally today, while the genre was more 21st century, sort of pop music, like soviet anthems, it was like, it looked like something you would stage as a prep final project for your strongman one-on-one course. it's just very much on point with all the trappings of sort of like performance of fascist unity. >> well, that -- steve calk, in a great biographer. he would be the first to tell you that stolen is very different from putin in myriad ways. but. but. there is no question that putin looks to leaders of the past as models with in terms of ideology and style, and how he conducts himself. and he knows a lit

. >> editor of "the new yorker" and former moscow correspondent david remnick talks to walter isaacson