the cyber teams, the core of them are nsa folks. if you have 24 stars with different directions, -- if you have four stars with different directions, i don't see how you separate them. when i -- one last question is for both generals. i flew traditional isr aircraft. all kinds of collection capabilities, penetrating isr, we know we do not penetrate china's airspace or russia's airspace. so we still need some of that traditional isr. that is the bulk of our collection. my question is, are we keeping the right balance between the traditional isr and penetrating, and you see a need to change this? >> with my army had on, there is a balance -- hats on, there's a balance between isr in competition and in conflict. as we are seeing this play out inside ukraine, we would never fly those platforms into an envelope they could get shot down or engaged. but certainly in competition, i think there is value for isr platforms that can collect on periphery and analyze and process that information. >> i would officer -- offer as the manager for tha

nsa and fbi have published cybersecurity advises that set out protections, the private sector can deploy to improve security. the present has also directed departments and agencies to use all existing government authorities to mandate new cybersecurity and network defense measures. you have seen us do that we have the authority to do so. including tsa that mandated directives for the oil and gas pipeline following the colonial pipeline incident that highlighted the resilience for that sector. our efforts together over the past year have helped drive much needed and significant improvement. but there's so much more we need to do too have the confidence that we have blocked our digital doors, particular for the critical services americans rely on. those owners and operators haven't responsibility that we all rely on. they didn't use known vulnerabilities for which there are patches for this is deeply troubling. so we are urging today companies to take steps within your control to act immediately to protect the services the fact sheet released alongside the statement keynes specific actions

ann and the nsa is like the nav s.e.a.l.s.ber space. >> what point of cyber warfare do you think the u.s. government retaliates and how would that, and would we even know about the retaliation? what form would it take? >> well, there's a concept of intel gain loss. what do you want to use because your adversary will see it and we may be coming up on a point where we'll see some new technology that we didn't know existed take place if we have a hot cyber war. so i absolutely know that the nsa is far better at offensive cyber than the russians are and there's going, we should be a serious deterrent. i really think the nsa could put the russians back to the 19th century. >> you mentioned healthcare as one of the more vulnerable areas in part because they have been the ones who have been hit with ra ransomware two questions here could the russian get involved in a kind of ransom ware without asking for ransom? in other words, we're just going to do the damage and we don't care about the money number two, what's the vulnerability o

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you also used to work at the nsa.our past experience in the private sector and also at the nsa when your job was to break into computers essentially, how you're applying that now here in your role, and are you putting yourself into the shoes of russian intelligence officers, what they may be thinking and doing, from your past experience? >> it's a really great question. we were created to be america's cyber defense agency to keep america safe from malicious cyber activity. it's important to understand how adversaries think. being on the offensive side having been working at the national security agency, standing up the first battalion, stand up u.s. cyber command, you understand how cyber actors operate and understanding that adversarial playbook often makes it easier or at least helps to facilitate an understanding of how you put your defenses up, how you go shield up. >> is your concern now the intent is there because the russians are feeling the squeeze from the sanctions? is that what makes this moment different?

in that bill there is, again, added resources and increased shift to both beefing up nsa and the cyber command, there were efforts in trying to up our cyber capabilities across the whole intelligence community. and for so long, understandably, the intel community -- because their crown jewel is guard sources and methods. and under that guise, they have been traditionally very unwilling to share intelligence outside of a very small group of policymakers. i've got my theories, i don't have the answer of who is the, who is the impetus of actually having this information shared in such a different manner vis-a-vis ukraine, although i do want to give a great shout-out to general knack sony if at nsa because a lot of this did come from signals intelligence, and he actually earned that intelligence. so his willingness to have that shared. i think it is really shown in a information-driven world if we can share intelligence with the public and with our allies on a more realtime basis, it puts us back in the game if in terms of information warfare. if i think over the last number of years, fran

glenn gerstell is a former general counsel of the nsa, the us national security agency.state of mind is the big one cyberattacks can include defacing websites, erasure or destruction of websites, denial of services that websites offer ransom for return of control of websites or cyber tools. and by 2025, or sooner weaponized technology, the deliberate taking control or shutting down of critical technologies such as power plants and water systems. to harm or kill people. the u. s military cyber command discussing cyber warfare at the hoover institute seminar stated its mission to enable the department of homeland security to protect critical infrastructure. to help the fbi and state department understand foreign threats and to partner with other nations, as well as providing us industry with specific defensive tools while also being prepared to act. either with offensive or defensive cyber if that's what our nation asked us to do, former nsa council, gerstell says as good as the russian government is that cyberwar putin is not likely to authorize a state sponsored attack,

glenn gerstell is a former general counsel of the nsa, the us national security agency. so the question of his state of mind is the big one cyberattacks can include defacing websites, erasure or destruction of websites, denial of services that websites offer ransom for return of control of websites or cyber tools. and by 2025, or sooner weaponized technology, the deliberate taking control or shutting down of critical technologies such as power plants and water systems. to harm or kill people. the u. s military cyber command discussing cyber warfare at the hoover institute seminar stated its mission to enable the department of homeland security to protect critical infrastructure. to help the fbi and state department understand foreign threats and to partner with other nations, as well as providing us industry with specific defensive tools, while also being prepared to act. either with offensive or defensive cyber if that's what our nation asked us to do, former nsa council, gerstell says as good as the russian government is that cyberwar putin is not likely to authorize a

lawmakers also pressed the heads of the cia, fbi and nsa dne and defense intelligence agency.ts to the u. s would be correct to characteristic they likely your assessment is that the threat is increasing. i absolutely agree that the threat is increasing. and however, while they call putin's announcement to place his nuclear forces on high alert, unusual they say they have not seen changes to russia's nuclear posture. we're not seeing something at this stage that indicates that he is doing something different than what we've seen in the past. the hearing took place the same day, the intelligence community released its annual threat assessment, concluding that russia doesn't want direct conflict with the us and sees nuclear weapons as a deterrent. in washington. mala rivera, ktvu fox two news. a florida based nonprofit is on a mission to rescue premature babies in ukraine as the russian invasion intensifies. members of project dynamos say they have rescued three premiums from ukraine and taking them to a hospital in poland. they are twin american boys and a premature british bab

. >> reporter: keith alexander was a four-star general when he ran the nsa, the national security agencyfew americans know more about cyber warfare or of vladamir putin or how he may retaliate than general alexander does. >> i believe he's going to hit europe and the united states with that cyber. and i believe those attack also go across a wide spectrum. >> reporter: can you put it in terms of what the average citizen is going to experience? >> the average person is going to look at what's happening to their bank, what's happening to their power company or their credit cards or the distribution of goods, whether it's oil and gas or supplies to their stores. all of that could be impacted by cyber attacks. >> in terms of thinking about modern war, it's not just about conquest, it's what we call hybrid war, information war, influence operations, propaganda, cyber, attacks that can be the use of criminal groups, for example. >> reporter: fiona hill worked at the trump white house in the national security council, where she served as senior director for europe and russia. in a sense, you're

says they have been hit with anti-lgbtq graffiti at least twice, and says arise and hit crime since nsa can be traced back to the trump administration. >> when you have a leader that is just awful about everyone, then these people come out of the woodwork and feel they have the right to hate anyone they want. >> it is sort of like the genie has been out of the lamp, and that once the hate has become unleashed, it is hard to put it back in the bottle. >> reporter: this professor from san francisco state cofounded the stop aapi hate movement. >> we had all of those three situations, a cold war against china, a pandemic, and the worst recession since the great depression, saw those three conditions led to higher rates of racism. >> if you don't do something about it it will get worse. >> reporter: reverend jeff moore is the former president of the naacp and san jose, and wants more information on the attackers. >> am interested to know what part of the county inhabitant, what are the demographics of the perpetrators, so we can see who they are and identify it, and work it, and fix it, and

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>> yes. >> how many did you have as director of nsa?he number of meetings you held in each capacity. section 1642. in 2017 to establish certification for termination of that? >> those conditions we continue to operate towards them. we've done things that make sure they get done. as you recall that was put in not necessarily as a precursor for any decision, if there was a decision these had to be made. >> sometimes it seems i am picking on you. you are doing an exceptional job. my issue is not with you personally but who follows and the things that follow and make sure we are in the right transitions and when it follows you we have a right organization, structure, and command style. everyone is not going to be just like you. we have to prepare for army standards. >> i appreciate your question. let me say a few things, this is a role, that obviously had the experience and training and it is not unique to me running both organizations. what is unique is the domain of what we are operating is requiring the speed and agility the nation needs

. >> charlotte, a lot of evidence from the nsa and others that russia interfered with the brexit referendum vote russia tried to interfere with the trump election in 2020 we hear about somcyber wars andw russia does not appear to win the cyber war over ukraine what are the french doing to make sure the russians don't interfere with the election this time around? >> it is interesting you mentioned this you remember that in the last election, marine le pen got financing from russia. there were photos of her traveling to moscow. this time around, her finances were difficult and she got some funding from hungary again, you could see potentially a russian connection there when it comes to financing the far right parties. in the last election, it was emmanuel macron's campaign was targeted by the russians we have not heard much in the campaign we know the risk will be very high we know that president macron is speaking to vladimir putin on a regular basis about the ukraine crisis and they were talking again on friday. we know the french authorities know this is a risk during the campaign they are

but it is also becoming law and in that bill there is added resources increase shift to beefing up nsa and the private command and the efforts to up the cybercapabilities across the whole intelligence community. and for so long, understandably the intel community, because the crown jewel and under the guise of sources and methods traditionally they were very unwilling to share intelligence out ofke a small group of policymakers. we t don't have the answer of what is the impetus of vis-À-vis from ukraine. and that did come from intelligence. so his willingness to have that shared. but if we can share intelligence with the public and with our allies in a more real time basis and back in terms of information warfare frankly russia has been much better at using information warfare also russian involvement in 2016 we continue to see russia use social media and a much more aggressive way. the fact we could get this information out into the bloodstream demonstrates any ability for people to claim any provocation. it really has left putin exposed to be the absolute culprit so that is important

cybercom and nsa and i hope you can provide some clarity today. it's very hard for me to distinguish between title 10 and title 50. it's taken me a while to get a grasp on boeft of those. generally dod is more offensively oriented and title 50 is a little more defensive and intelligence related. my first question are the operational requirements the two organizations in decline, relatively flat, or are they growing? >> they continue to grow, congressman. >> and have dependencies between the two agencies such as shared infrastructure and capabilities increased or decreased during the past several years? >> they've decreased. >> and have you taken any action to decrease any such dependencies? >> i have not. in terms of -- and i think this is really designed for the infrastructure that we operate off of. those were decisions prior to mine. i think they were good decisions, and we've care yid out separate infrastructures that have been developed for both. >> and how many meetings did you hold last year related to your role as commander of u.s. cyberco

to welcome our witnesses director of national intelligence, cia director the fbi director ray in the nsa and general of us cybercommand and the lieutenant general. thank you all for being here today and thank you also to literally thousands of dedicated professionals who help to the work to lie you to perform at this committee this is critically important it is not only an opportunity for the intelligence agencies to inform our members of the many threats and opportunities facing the united states, it's one of the only times the combined leadership of the ic comes together to inform the l american public. that's why last year when there was not a hearing in 2020 congress codify the briefing requirement in law. this dialogue and transparency is a fundamental pillar of democracy that allows the american people to appreciate the ic usually secret mission andd to national security agency counsel then that i don't want to first express my enormous gratitude for the accuracy in which it predicted putin's plans to invade ukraine. plain for all to see that the lives of the, which were attempting

amounts of steroids after 9/11 obviously with the patriot act but then you have the cia and fbi and nsaand congress has occasionally tried to roll things back and occasionally try to rewrite sections of the patriot act but these agencies were still able to do an awful lot of unwarranted spying on americans through a number of loopholes and now instead of fixing that, the biden administration basically says if you have any trump voters who are pro- second amendment, they are probably private domestic terrorists biggest threat so now we can spy on them. guess who else, then dominic touched on at the beginning of the show, parents and school board meetings so instead of bringing the power and, they are turning it on the most vulnerable americans so do you have support from democrats with this legislation? >> interesting, your member of the origination u.s. government spying on martin luther king and aclu you think would be on our side but unfortunately they have taken the view, we know they've abused their power but they were abusing their power against trump and trump supporters and there

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is it our assets on ground that are providing nsa that information? >> so it could be coming from just direct line of contact between our department of defense and their russian counterparts that's official channels and it is happening. it is to deconflict been going on for a long time and could be that -- i would expect it is more likely that than clandestine reporting and it could be. at the end of the day at least in my view given ukrainian stinger and javelin with fighter aircraft is a distinction without a difference and either way using that equipment -- to target lethally to target russian tanks and their soldiers and right now ukraine is in extraordinarily perilous situation and i think one of the things for this administration you know looking back -- the question will have to ask is did we do enough to deter invasion in first place and as soon as that is no we ran kind of a live twitter feed of declassify cia intelligence reporting on eminent invasion but we didn't help ukraine prepare for it and help make it clear to russia it would be -- i

i've done stories at the nsa, and they do red team, blue team efforts to go after cyber attackers.ty to do our own damage overseas as well, but this is our new battlefield of the next century. we have to be wary, especially about our electric grid and other vulnerabilities. >> emily: here in new york city alone, the estimates are almost $1 billion of property that oligarchs only here in addition to long island, that the state that putin owns. what do you think about seizing those properties? >> shannon: the efforts they are going to take gear for luxury apartments, jets, yachts, anything they can trace to oligarchs. we know sanctions are heard in the russian people. we see them lining up at the atm, worried as the currency crashes. we need to make it painful for the oligarchs. if that should be the focus. there seems to be a coordinated effort with european allies as well. last year, president biden gave a list of 16 sectors to president putin that he said "don't attack these." health care, defense, water, energy, all these different things. i would be the most worried about them.

at that and very good at military on the cyberwarfare with cybercommand and also very good with the nsapabilities so those are all on table to see a attack from russia. >> if we're going to attack putin we have to bring him down to his niece and it -- cyberis a big component of that. thank you for joining me on cross country. >> thanks for having me on. appreciate it. lawrence: as threat of new clear war sparks fear across the globe interest and personal bunkers is soaring. let's attack look inside. that's necks on cross krnghts. >> how thick is this door? >> this door is three inches thick. >> can a bullet go through here? >> two -- three -- >> nope. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy - even a term policy - for an immediate cash payment. call coventry direct to learn more. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized we needed a way to supplement our income. our friend sold their policy to help pay their medical bills, and that got me thinking. maybe selling our policy could help with our retirement. i

the nsa saying that the death toll was much higher than anything that has been reported. war in ukraine in a devastating way. >> we believe that moscow may be setting the stage to use a chemical weapon and then falsely blame ukraine to justify escalating the attacks on ukrainian people. >> "out front" now retired mark kimmet and rob lee, senior fellow and expert on the russian military who tracks what they are doing on the ground. in light of the detail of the sagging morale because the losses are higher and they're struggling to replace them, you have been tracking day in and day out losses with the russian troops. what stands out to you now? >> it's hard to know exactly how much they've lost. it's going to be very inexact right now. we know after the first week of the war russia lost more soldiers than it did in georgia and in 2014 and 2015. all of that combined. it's a significant loss and in particular we're seeing heavy losses. the airborne forces, other kind of elite formations. >> because these are the elite units. these are highly trained people and hard to replac

the foreign ministry said this is false information china's talks with the nsa's adviser jake sullivann rome. guys >> important detail to add there, eunice. thank you. in this inflationary environment, is this another supply chain shock and labor shocking on the manufacturing side in the making that could complicate both the market and recovery >> yes it's really unfortunate what's happening. when we think about the way that china approaches these variants and just the covid in general, it's just to lock everything down one of the downsides of that is that it reduces the ability to have something of a herd immunity, and also we know that the vaccinations that are used are apparently research shows not as effective so that's a great point, jon, is that could we be in for another shock? i hope that china and the manufacturers were able to use this period of time to put in some plans for backup, you know. we'll see what happens with foxconn. i'm hoping apple has the bulk of these supply chain issues behind it this is yet just another chapter in what could potentially be a shock. you know,

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at that and very good at military on the cyberwarfare with cybercommand and also very good with the nsapabilities so those are all on table to see a attack from russia. >> if we're going to attack putin we have to bring him down to his niece and it -- cyberis a big component of that. thank you for joining me on cross country. >> thanks for having me on. appreciate it. lawrence: as threat of new clear war sparks fear across the globe interest and personal bunkers is soaring. let's attack look inside. that's necks on cross krnghts. >> how thick is this door? >> this door is three inches thick. >> can a bullet go through here? >> two -- three -- >> nope. and i just didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice. [ forde ] replacing marcia's teeth with dental implants at clearchoice was going to afford her that permanent solution. [ marcia ] clearchoice dental implants gave me the ability to take on the world. i feel so much better, and i think that that is the key. lawrence: as global tensions continue to escalate in russian forces want to again target a nuclear research facility in ukrain

fbi, cia, nsa, pentagon. and we've had a lot of controversy about our professional health cares. but the common dethe nominator is we have a lot of people who exercise in one office or one person legislative, executive and judicial power without necessary audit. we also have have a lot of evolutionary, there's nothing wrong with changing the constitution because we have an amendment that foresaw that, and many of them have been key when about slavery, women's right to vote or perhaps even the 18-year-old vote. but this idea that suddenly in the 243rd year of our republic we're going to get rid of customs and traditions that have worked pretty well, the 180-year filibuster that's been discussed, the 9-person supreme court that's been with us for a hundred years, 233 years of the electoral college. so that's also -- i'm very worried about that as far as the dangers of a constitutional government imploding or regressing. and then finally, is -- globalism is kind of a new variation on an ancient idea called cross poll tan, citizens of the world, but it's primarily confined to the eli

. >> former nsa hacker david kennedy says russia's aggression could result in cyberattacks on the u.seing the other. when you talk about the war cyber war and who what would constitute crossing the line. >> the chairman of the senate intelligence committee says is he amazed the kremlin has not already launched the kind of cyberattack of which u.s. officials know. reports from security firms reveal cyberattacks on ukraine skyrocketed a few weeks ago. and have increased some 17% even in north america from free invasion levels. though americans don't need to overreact next. >> don't go depleting your bank account. >> russia could do damage small scale attacks are more likely according to the director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure institute at auburn university. >> death by a thousand cyber paper cuts could be really impactful to our economy. small and medium size businesses, i think, are unfortunately prime targets. >> while systems like power grids and banks are generally more secure. he warns other critical infrastructure doesn't get the same kind of cyber protection. >> our

i think there has been cyber attacks against ukraine, against the united states, i think our nsa and defense department is working to protect us. they've probably done a very good job of cutting some of those off. but i think, this is more towards our banks, our utilities, the piping to protect themselves. and they've done a good job, but it's the highest price of gas. you have to let people know that it is going to be a price cut -- i think, we're just going to have to wait and see what happens. but we also should be prepared to see things that will make it harder on ourselves. >> nobody likes the sound of racists of. rob, i want to share this. >> blood near putin is in a very dangerous corner right now. he no longer believes that he can take kyiv to a conventional military invasion. he's going to move toward a genocidal strategy in which he attacks and kills as many civilians as possible. >> all right, the typical view of putin is a tyrants. but i want you to tell us the view from 30,000 feet. separate the grandeur with politics. why does russia believe that they can take control o

has been operating bio labs in ukraine now, before his visit the nsa adviser jake sullivan said he was speaking with china's top diplomat about the potential consequences if there is what he had said, a large scale sanctions evasion. this, of course, then puts china in an uncomfortable position where it doesn't like to be. where it has to make tough choices when it comes to foreign policy or what happens risk a harder break with the u.s. and its allies >> and at the same time, now facing the worst covid outbreak they've had in china in two years. right? >> yeah. that's right so far 51 million people here are in lockdown or in partial lockdown including in a tech hub of when jen. the entire population being tested for a third time in testing centers that are makeshift like the one behind me in shenzhen. the entire city has been told that the businesses there that are nonessential need to be suspended for at least a week. a travel has been cut. public transport has been cut. and fox con -- suppliers of apple have said they have been able to put in place some backup plans. fox con said in

vince, wow, donald trump suing hillary clinton and also suing the dnc, christopher steele,nsa sullivanssia collusion. alleging racketeering to injurious falsehood, $72 million treble damages. what do you think? >> he is casting a wide net. it about time. he has some of the final pieces he needs in place. as join durham reveals more and more what he knows about the clinton's campaign underhanded nefarious government exploiting activities to take down donald trump as a citizen, as a president of the united states. he has some of the pieces he needs for this lawsuit including things like michael sussman, the clinton lawyer who was trying to take the information to the government, fabricated information about connections between donald trump and russia and claiming that he wasn't representing any particular interest when he did that. june door ham, said, that is not true. you were bill be the clinton campaign doing that very activity. this adds to the final pieces that donald trump's team needs to be able to successfully pursue this lawsuit. hopefully it creates the kind of consequences th

washington examiner, quoting a justice department source, there was a plot out of iran to assassinate former nsaially on u.s. soil last year and that the secret service and the fbi were scrambled on that. now we're talking to iran in nuclear deal and talking about more oil from iran. >> none of that as makes sense as you said to me. this president, this administration is hell-bent trying to do everything the wrong way. nicole is exactly right, when biden was elected president, price was $1.89 on inauguration day. i remember the day very well. today it is up dollar 1/2. he continues to talk with bad actors around the world. why? i think he is intentionally trying to run the economy into a ditch. an economist came into small business committee talking about amount of inflation caused by high energy prices. 20, 25% is caused by high energy resmall businesses to run their businesses, price their products more reason bring but they can't because of inflation, higher energy prices all works together. it all starts with an executive order last year that the president had to stop the keystone pipeline a

lawmakers also pressed the heads of the cia, fbi and nsa dna and defense intelligence agency.o the u. s would be correct to characterize that they likely your assessment is that the threat is increasing. i absolutely agree that the threat is increasing. and however, while they call putin's announcement to place his nuclear forces on high alert, unusual they say they have not seen changes to russia's nuclear posture or not seeing something at this stage that indicates that he is doing something different than what we've seen in the past. the hearing took place the same day the intelligence community released its annual threat assessment, concluding that russia doesn't want direct conflict with the us and sees nuclear weapons as a deterrent. in washington. mala rivera, ktvu fox two news. a florida based nonprofit is on a mission to rescue premature babies in ukraine. members of project dynamos say they have rescued three premiums from that country as the russian military invasion intensifies and they've evacuated 150. people from ukraine as part of 14 separate missions, along wi

perjury talking to congress whether or not he was collecting information on private people part of nsa's >> this is the guy who comes out. signs the letter saying it had all the hallmarks of russian disinformation. what hallmark of russian disinformation. we have got to stop allowing democrats to do this knee-jerk reaction and try to discredit everything that they disagree with. really, i have a lot of answers. i want to know how much hunter biden is going to get paid off the green new deal and what he is going to make with the chinese cpp controlled investment firm that he has money involved in. i would like to know all of this. jen psaki won't talk about it. that could go on forever. >> brian: michael hayden subordinated with the republican administration and -- that was almost the cover. i met and talked with these guys in the past. i have no idea why they would take part in this dana loesch, always great to talk to you and listen to your show. >> good to see you, brian. >> brian: all right, meanwhile 32 minutes before the top of the hour. what a surprise the cdc overinflated the numb

and it's going to take the nsa, cyber command, and the federal government to help advise and provide some top cover for our companies. if they can't do it on their own. so this bill will instruct the federal government to come up with a plan on how to support our private sector, but also, like, our infrastructure. you know, the russians are trying to embed themselves into our energy sector, and then, they can just turn off the power in certain areas and create a ripple effect. so the federal government will have to step up and do more here. >> congressman, you mentioned china, and i did want to get your perspective on the united states, perhaps doing more to engage, not only china in a more aggressive manner, but also india, as well. two partners in asia that have been, at best, reluctant to engage on bringing peace to ukraine. >> well, there's no doubt that china is sympathetic to putin right now. they're looking at what we're doing and the world's response, and they're going to look at -- their goal is to take over taiwan at some point. it's very important that we get this right wi