congressional hearings, david foster is going to speak on behalf, i am reeling in the big guns, peter franson said he will come because there are a lot of people, not the rich ones you think are in the music business, but most of the people who are the backup singers, musicians, they can be in a part of a song like uptown funk which is the most played song in music history. they will not get a dime beyond the recording session. it leaves the middle-class people, they have bills to pay. they have kids to put through school. they are being exploited and we are here to close up that loophole. [applause] >> in the last few years sag-aftra has expanded to include content creators, how do you balance the membership between traditional actors and online creators? fran: it is not about balance. it is about addressing everybody's needs. without that group, once the merge happened between the companies we have a broad and diverse group of members from broadcasters to background players to singers to dancers to commercial actors to stunt people, it is a big union of a lot of different people. it is not

not just saying international law applies how it applies in the one hand sovereignty as a rule with franson on the other hand the uk sovereignty does not apply. the last point here is is dangerous to argue the differences between the alliance come from simply differences in maturity. there actually of a different policy part. that requires some real coordination and cooperation to at least bring us closer most start with. she you mentioned norms view mention the lack of taxonomy we've got a lot of work to do. where are our nations currently consists succeeding, where are they falling short? where should we focusing our intentions on to make progress in this space? >> all pick one from each category. where we really are succeeding as he cooperation of the tactical level. the kind of things that max mentioned different levels of coordination but it is happening. at the working level people are sharing indicators, people are exercising together. right now the big nato exercise the nato alliance the hunt for this is how we are going to win in this domain. i think that is where things are going