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i was curious as to what that would mean? john kirby: i don't think anybody here is ready to be fatalistic about what happens in mariupol. our assessment today is that it is still contested and the ukrainians are so fighting to defend mariupol. it is obviously russians want mary. because of its -- mariupol because it is a port city and it would provide them unfettered and unhindered land access between the donbas and crimea, and if in fact what they say is true that they want to secure for themselves the donbas area, the area they claim is russian provinces, then mariupol from a geographic perspective, you can understand why that would be important to them in terms of their efforts in the donbas. it has great significance to the ukrainian people because of what it represents to their economic life led and it is there a city and it is part of their country and they have not given up on it and we are not giving up on them either. >> can you confirm that some of the u.s. participated in the exercise in norway recently? can you tell u

so here's why i support john bozeman. so what you want in dc is somebody that gets up every day and says how can i help my state and country. that's what john bozeman does. let me give you some numbers on the budget. the way the senate works, john bozeman and i don't get to propose anything we get a vote on right now. whoever is the majority leader everything voted on the floor. chuck schumer who's never acknowledged me as a person will not get on the elevator with the train with me or acknowledge that i exist. he controls every vote. let's take the budget for a second. twenty years ago to today, what was the population increase, 16%. what have the democrats done on the budget? the proposed budget is up 300% from 20 years ago. who can pay for this stuff? they have unbelievable deficits as long as they don't bankrupt this country. look at the inflation. it's caused by reckless spending. when i watch john bozeman, he watches your dollars. he's on appropriations and says we are going to spend money where it's good for our cit

here is why i support john bozeman. what you want, what you want in do you see is someone who gets up every day and says how can i help my state and my country? that is what john bozeman does. some numbers on the budget. the way this works, we don't get to propose anything we get a vote on. everything voted on the floor, chuck schumer who never acknowledged me as a person. i've been there for three years knocking on the elevator or train or acknowledged that i exist. he controls every vote which we don't get a vote. that's why we have to get a majority. let's get the budget for second. 20 years ago, what was the population increase? 16%. what have the democrats done on the budget? biden's proposed, 300% from 20 years ago. who can pay for the stuff? they run unbelievable deficits as long as they don't do that. look at the inflation. inflation is caused by record government spending. when i watch john bozeman, he watches your dollars, he says we are going to spend money where it is good for our citizens but not where it is

so i john who would you say is the greatest american? oh lord. the greatest american president is almost certainly lincoln with i think a close second of fdr because both confronted existential crises and preserve the possibilities of democracy that we have now once again in peril as we speak, you know, the greatest american i've known is john robert lewis. born in pike county alabama's a great grandson have been enslaved man son of a sharecropper who folks like me like to say we quote theater parker the 19th century abolitionist who said the arc of a moral universe's long, but have been stored justice, but it doesn't bend toward justice if there there aren't people insisting that it's swerve. and john on that bridge on the freedom rides and so many different places parchman prison, which faulkner called destination doom. after the freedom rides he insisted that what we said in the declaration had to be made real so john you've obviously written a important book on jefferson. can you explain to people why it is that jefferson wrote a sentence that

i wonder refreshes, get to reciprocate john. well, that's what everyone i suppose is afraid of, but the fact that this is a war not between russia and ukraine, but between russia and nato. we've known this since the beginning of the conflict. ukraine is just the theatre of this conflict. there belligerence are nato and russia. how we known this well, because president lensky told us, he told us, i think, 3 days into the war, 27th of february or something like that. he said he'd wrung up all the nato member states and asked them, could ukraine join the alliance? and they all said no, but publicly the doors will remain open. in other words, war is not about letting ukraine shoes make a sovereign choice about its future as the nato idealogue said at the time because they're not prepared to admit it to their lines. instead, it is, as you've quoted peter less trust saying all joe biden or the other week saying that the goal was to, we can russia. so that is the goal. and that's why the british foreign secretary says it's everybody's w

john carlstrom? the work of the people and by the way, i am john samples, the vice president of cato and i thought he could tell us about the book and we can talk about the issues and turn the q and a in a little while. jacob is founder and executive director and host of the podcast clear and present danger history of free speech. i highly recommend that to you,v it's very interesting podcast series and is available still. he's writing on free speech in the washington post, foreign policy and other outlets around the world. he lives in denmark. john rauch is senior fellow and government studies program and offered eight books. it made me feel that. how do you do that? many articles, public policy, articles highly influential and may know. these publications include 2021 book the constitution acknowledge defense of truth as well as5 the 2015 book which i think more and more coming into its own politicalal realism, bak room deals can strengthen democracy and rights for the atlantic and the 2005 national magazine award. so i'm eager to get started here. jacob, can you tell us about the book, what led yo

this morning i spoke to john roberson i want to tell you his story. when his wife got covid, he broke the rules of code. he did not see her in hospital, she did not held her hand when she died. because there were questions about police. they did not have a service in the church. don's son-in-law -- the -- state away. doesn't the prime minister realized john would have given the world to hold his dying wife's hand. even if it was just nine minutes. but he didn't because he followed the prime minister's rules. rules we now know the -- after months of insulting and skews, today's halfhearted apology will never be enough for john robinson. if the prime minister has any respect for john and the means he sacrificed to follow all the rules, he will resign. but he won't because he doesn't respect john. he doesn't respect the sacrifice of the bridge public. he is a man without shame. looking -- lit and the dog and cabinet. who do respect john robinson, who respect the british public. they know the things the prime minister is doing and they know they cannot go

i knew john barry was gonna bring a flood. so so the question becomes baldwin is like baldwin always committed to the idea of a new jerusalem, but he and i want to insist and i don't want to have to echo his voice that in order for that to happen. we have to grow up. and confront ourselves honestly about who we are as a nation that is so my argument back is that i'm not asking anybody to wait to we broadly put get our house in order. i think this is a description of human nature. perennial struggle between light and dark and good and bad that unfolds in our individual lives and then in a democracy. in the fullness of the nation itself because of democracy. largely, not entirely but largely the fullest manifestation of our individual dispositions of heart and mind and those dispositions of heart and mind give it just enough force. in just enough focus to the rule of law. and so that's one slide amendment i would i would propose. one of my favorite lines of baldwins comes from when he's writing about snick and florida. i want to

i sometimes call it the easy listening version of thecivil rights movement . because john even in the beginning in 1966 at kingston springs tennessee not far from where i lived, stokely carmichael and john lewis went to battle over different approaches to the same and. in many ways. and john was seen as somebody with doctor king. it was the sunday school version, nonviolence, one of those leaders who was siding with stokely carmichael and the problem with john lewis after 1963 was every time president johnson called john woodson his suit to the cleaners and he get off clean he was seen as too much a part of the establishment that was trying to be shifted. but ultimately the way i resolved that if i did successfully was through the language hrof the southern church. of which i'm a part in a broader sense. not a very good christian as robert louis stevenson said. the duty of a christian is not to succeed but fail cheerfully and if so i'm the most cheerful guy you'll ever encounter . but he was on that bridge. he was on the freedom ride. he was in nashville coming c out of th

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i sometimes thought the easy listening version of the civil rights movement. john even in the beginning in kingston springs, tennessee, fot not far from where i lived, stokley and john lewis went to battle for the same ends, in many ways. and john was seen as somebody with dr. king, he was a sunday school version, it was nonviolent, it was too accommodationist, one of the snick leaders who was siding with stokley carmichael said the problem with john lewis after 1963 was every time president johnson called, john would send his suit to the cleaners and then get on a plane. so he was seen as too much of a part of the establishment that was trying to be shifted. but the way-- ultimately the way i resolved that, if i did successfully, was through the language of the southern church. >> right. >> of which, i'm a part in the broadest sense. i'm not a very good christian, as robert lewis stevenson said, the duty of the christian is not to succeed, it's to fail cheerfully. if so i'm the most cheerful guy you'll ever encounter, but he was on that bridge. he was on the freed

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go ahead, john. i mean, at this point, ukraine is just the protectorate of the united states of the nato empire. and it's just a tool to strike at russia. and i agree with what daniel said, but i would like to add, let's not forget the ideological component here. moscow, russia, as a country that openly says it protects traditional values, is the arch enemy of the global as liberal order. so there is a very important component here. they want to destroy a lot of important rule, and they would like to destroy russia. so this is really, i don't want to say it's not going to total war because a total, what would be direct confrontation between nato and russia? what is just short of a total war? and the goal of nato is to destroy russia. they, i've spoken to people, people at the council and they really believe that they're going away and they're going to destroy russia. and it's going to break up into different different regions and then they, they will be able to control and exploits. yeah, marco, i seem

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i mean, this is 2003 interactive pales in comparison. go ahead, john. i understand why you're so startled and we all are. but it's finally time for us to say that this is all obviously very deliberate because it's a deliberate policy of waging war against russia. they do not care about the truth . they do not care when i say they, the establishment in the western country, the nato countries did not care about truth. they do not care about freedom and democracy in human rights. they just have one goal, destroy russia, at any cost. we just have to again, i understand why just thought that i am to, but we have to stop being startled. just to understand what their goal is. daniel did. the aim is to destroy russia. any, at any cost, even if it impacts their own citizenry in the west. because that's quite obvious right now. daniel. well, good since price. like, you know, i just wonder, every time i go to fill up my car, every time i go to the store, i see putin's price. i, you know, americans are not very patient with things like this. on the president said, t

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i wonder refresh is going to reciprocate john. well, that's what everyone i suppose is afraid of. but the fact that this is a war not between russia and ukraine, but between russia and nato. we've known this since the beginning of the conflict. ukraine is just the theatre of this conflict. there belligerence are nato and russia. how we known this? well? because president lensky told us, he told us, i think, 3 days into the war, 27th of february or something like that. he said he'd wrung up all the nato member states and asked them, could ukraine join the alliance? and they all said no. but publicly the doors will remain open. in other words, war is not about letting ukraine shoes make a sovereign choice about its future as the nato idealogue said at the time, because they're not prepared to admit it to their lines. instead, it is. as you've quoted peter less trust saying all joe biden or the other week saying that the goal was to we can russia. so that is the goal. and that's why the british foreign secretary says it's everybody's war because what she means is that the west london

i know you have looked a little bit at the numbers. have we seen any decline in demand? johnfirst of all, nice to be here in person. like to do this today. i think we are seeing some early signs that consumers are shifting their purchasing patterns coming out of the pandemic, away from all the purchases of goods over the past few years and more into services. i will not respond too much to one month of data, but that is the pattern i'm expect to see continued during the year. i think it's an important part of the story, to see consumers as we get past the pandemic, moving back to more normal patterns of spending. we will have to watch the data carefully but that is a trend that i'm looking forward to this year. mike: over the past week, a number of your colleagues have seemed more concerned about the pace of inflation suggesting they are changing her mind about how quickly you should do that. do you still believe that you can do this at a measured, slow pace? john: i don't think we will do our policy adjustments in a measured, slow pace. with very high inflation, we need to f

oh, i bet john and the apple does not fall far from the tree. so so i was i started doing the book about george herbert walker bush. it took me 17 years and it was supposed to be posthumous, but the son of a -- wouldn't die and i'd mentioned that you go not gonna do it. the key to doing his voice is dana carvey once said is mr. rogers trying to be john wayne and i'm absolutely i'm trying to get this in the bloodstream more one of the best tweets of all time, which is like the best restaurant in a hospital i realized but somebody a couple months ago wrote that if mr. rogers and doris goodwin had a one-night stand i would have resulted. so i insist that that's a good thing doris is a little of tricky the thing about the interesting thing about versus alive is as you know, david was incredibly close to the bushes. president bush senior was not the most reflective guy verbally. thought deeply while that but he had a hard time, you know, english was not his strong suit, and he once said late in the 88 campaign, it's no exaggeration to say the undecide

so thank you all i feel very good about that john. the only thing i don't feel good about is it in your introduction? you didn't mention that my first and seminal work on this subject now 29 years old kindly inquisitors. the new attacks on free thought was published by whom there goes by performance review the cato institute cato institute. yeah, and it's even worse than that because the second edition john and i corresponded frequently after because i was the publisher of it for okay, that's right. how could i forget that and don't forget the audiobook narrated by penn gillette. yes, it's spectacular. anyway, i so i have a spectacular i owe a big debt to cato because at the time no one i couldn't get a commercial publisher for the book. and here we are 30 years later. it's a fair to say a classic which is what we call books that are ignored for 25 years before anyone responding is because he was getting so much money from chicago that i was really really excel sold and the second edition. so quite well, so i thought i'd just say three

i think that's the math, john.n, the word marijuana? don't they have something more, rising crime rates, don't they have a population that needs actual help from government? this -- this is their focus? >> anita: they have a lot of things on their plate, will, but they are focussing on this. a quote from a washington state lawmaker, this is representative melanie morgan, she says the term marijuana itself is racist as recreational marijuana use was more popular, it was negatively associated with mexican immigrants. does anybody really think that? >> no. i'm not 100% plugged in to the marijuana community, but i don't think that everyone associates, i don't think anyone associates the word marijuana with any particular language, much less ethnicity. i think it's a pop culture term at this point, divorced from racist association. >> john: you mentioned a second ago more important things to focus on like crime. fox news digital reached out so some companies heavily supportive of black lives matter and other efforts to

it -- if that is risky, we should take that risk. >> i have a logistics question. johni do not want to lose the thought on this. most of us learned in more college you want to deter your enemy and not have your enemy deter you. most of us learned in war college you want to seize and hold the initiative. we need to start thinking about how we regain the initiative and forced mr. putin to react to us. we need to start asking that of questions about how do we redetermine mr. putin. he is not deterred right now. we want him to feel deterred right now. these are two really tough questions but we need to begin to consider them. sorry for interrupting. >> if we deter ukraine with weapons because putin is threatening us with nukes, what happens if he moves on to? a logistics question from barry smith's, what is the state of ukraine supply line in the east and how did that affect? >> ukraine has been a good job to this point. we need to give them credit of doing some diverse justification of how they move things forward. realize we did not get a lot of what mariupol when -- what

i mean, how is that a victory in the long term? let me throw that to john. go ahead, john. you react to that? well, it's not a victory, it's, it's caught making a desert and calling it piece that i think that the cutting off of gas is going to be the next escalation. it's already started with poland and bulgaria, or the europeans for one minute say that they will pay in roubles in another minute, say that they won't. and unless the escalation, which has been explicitly threatened by vladimir putin notably against britain, unless at escalation takes a military form. i don't know what exactly he means. maybe he means some kind of a hypersonic strike on a british target. unless he means that the logical next step is indeed the escalation that you have mentioned, namely cutting off the gas supplies. even if those gas supplies were only cut off for, let's say, a week, the rise in gas prices would be so catastrophic, and the effect on the markets would be so immense that that would itself strike a very severe blow. as of course would a permanent cutoff. so yes, i think europe is s