bill browder, welcome to hardtalk. great to be back. it's great to have you here.t a few weeks ago, you seemed almost euphoric about the scale of western sanctions you were seeing being imposed on vladimir putin. i wonder, with a few weeks more knowledge of the way the war is going and the way the russian economy is going, whether you're a little less euphoric. well, euphoric is probably the wrong sentiment to in any way attribute to this terrible tragedy that's going on with putin and ukraine. what i would say is that the sanctions that have been imposed on putin are more devastating and more unbelievable than any sanctions that have ever been imposed on any country ever. but that's not enough. and as you said in your introduction, we've sanctioned the central bank reserves, we've sanctioned the oligarchs, we've even cut off a number of russian banks from swift. that's sort of the savings of putin. but every day, he earns $1 billion from the sale of oil and gas to germany, italy, austria, etc, and every day his invasion costs him $1 billion. and so, from an income

we can hear from hedge fund manager and prominent kremlin critic bill browder who's also in dallas. he's been speaking to d. w. he's been visiting bill is total economic isolation of let me put the only way now really of stopping is boring. yes. now that has crossed the rubicon now that he's gone to ukraine. he has no, he has no capacity to back down. he. he views compromise as weakness, negotiation as weakness. and i've been in a conflict with him for 10 years over the burger survey magnets game. and i've never seen him in one instance back down in one way. he only has a. ready for a year, no reverse gear and if that is the case and it is the case, then the only thing we can do is completely and absolutely starve him with the resources to fight this war. is there enough unity here in doubles for that? at the moment there is but the real problem that we face in here in davos is that we're going to be at this war probably for a long time. there's going to be a situation where, you know, 66 months or a year from now, people are going to be suffering from higher oil prices, higher gas p

joining me the ceo of hermitage capital bill browder, he's the author of the new book "freezing orderf money laundering and surviving vladimir putin's wrath." bill, how significant is this? is it a one-off or something more in your view? >> well, i mean, this is a guy who is saying the king's not wearing a clothes. the words that he -- that you just read out from his post is exactly what's happening. the reason why this -- why this is happening is because putin wants to stay in power. the fact that he's done it, first of all, is very brave. secondly, it sets a standard for what -- if the oligarchs ever want to come in from the cold, they have to say things like this. and hopefully, this will give other people a nudge. or perhaps even the confidence to say the same thing. i think it's very significant that an insider is saying it. russia is a country all about symbolism. and having somebody inside the machine, inside the beast, coming out and saying this i think really is quite dramatic. >> we should be very clear, you personally know the risks of taking a position against the kremlin.

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also on the list investor bill browder recounts his investigation into a money laundering scheme that ultimately to russian president vladimir putin. his book is called freezing order and that's followed by bittersweet. susan kane's thoughts on embracing loss and sadness. and wrapping up our look at indybound's best-selling nonfiction books is tegan. gerard's cookbook half baked harvest every day. and that's a look at this week's publishing news and the latest nonfiction books. thanks for joining us on the about books program and podcast about books is available as a podcast on the c-span now app or wherever you get your podcast. you are muck. ♪ ♪ >> and you've been watching booktv. every sunday on c-span2 watch nonfiction authors discuss their books. television for serious readers. and watch them all online anytime at booktv.org can. you could also find us on twitter, facebook and youtube @booktv. .. because they were tasked with transcribing many of those conversations. in fact, they were the ones who make sure that the conversations were taped as johnson would signal to them throug

joining us is bill browder, ceo and cofounder of garment touch capital.lly great read, and you write about how a lot of sanctions which you fought for, and more sanctions being put to hurt putin, to freeze the trustees of his money. we are 12 weeks into this conflict, can he still be swayed by money? bill: i don't think these sanctions will sway him one way or another. if we had done that before he invaded, we might have had a different outcome. now that he has crossed the line and gone into ukraine, he never backs down. there is no reverse gear for vladimir putin. dani: so we are too late to be focusing on sanctions? bill: not at all. the purpose is to bleed him dry financially. this war cost him a million dollars a day. he has got money in the central bank which is frozen. and offshore money with the oligarchs which is now frozen. the key to this exercise is to freeze his savings which is what we have done with oligarch money. and two breeze's which is coming from the purchase of oil and gas in europe. dani: do you share concerns that by putting putin i

maria: joining us right now live from davos, switzerland ceo hermitage capital bill browder great to for nos don't know you were the largest foreign investor in russia until sanctioned declared national security threat exposing corruption in russian state owned companies where is that now in your thoughts on what zelenskyy is saying why pushing for sanctions against russia. >> because we're in a situation right now where every dollar that goes to putin, is a dollar spending killing ukrainians we've gone good work sanging assets of russia we've gone after 350 billion dollars central bank reserves, gone after a bunch oligarchs, very successful but we haven't sanctioned income money that flows in on daily basis, and that money, is of the order of magnitude a billion dollars a day, and that is about the amount of money he is spending on his war efforts a billion-dollar a day. so he could carry on a very long time killing ukrainians causing terrible hardships if nothing is done to stop that, and president zelenskyy is exactly right which is the way to stop that is by stopping the purchase