replacing ed harrington is no easy task. i do not know her personally, but i have heard good things about her by reputation and certainly bringing this to a hearing is a smart move by anyone. i agree with the previous caller about having energy expertise on the commission. i am somewhat concerned, however hearing of her new position with the long-duration energy storage entity, inasmuch as the p.u.c. has recently entered into at least two long duration energy storages regarding clean power s.f. and i am wondering if this new position and source of funds may create a conflict of interest that would disqualify her from participating in certain aspects of clean power s.f. or possibly more aspects relative to energy, which is admittedly one of her areas of expertise. the good thing about having experience is that it is great, the bad thing about having that as a source of income is it may be disqualifying from certain actions. the p.u.c. has arguably the most complicated infrastructure and history of the commissions in the city,

former commissioner ed harrington stated that 30 years ago that p.u.c. had no debt. currently, a member of the p.u.c. sits on the m.t.a. revenue bond oversight committee. this seat was formally held by kathy howe. it's currently held by the p.u.c. deputy c.f.o. the p.u.c. deputy c.f.o. stated that he managed a $6 billion debt portfolio. there were gasps and responses. tomorrow at the board of supervisors budget appropriations committee meeting, agenda items 8-14 are related to the p.u.c.'s finances. these agenda items represent hundreds of millions of dollars of debt. this begs the question. if the p.u.c. default on any of its revenue bond and debt portfolio, would the city be liable? if the city is not liable, why not? new subject, yesterday, there was media coverage about a meeting of water agencies with governor newsom. since the meeting was closed to the public and media, i'm urging the p.u.c. to report on it during the commission meeting today. thank you. >> thank you for your comment. >> caller: good afternoon president moran and commissioners. i'm jeremy polla