well, thank you so much, frederick obama, from my german mediately dish speaker, one of the about 30 investigative journalists behind this story. thank you so much for sharing it with us. thanks for having me. 3 months into the ukraine war, the fighting has moved largely to the east of the country. there. russia is making slow progress in its attempt to control the don bass region. some towns outside is key if they're so devastating, fighting are still struggling to recover. dw correspondent max sandra visited the town off hostile mail, where an international team of psychologists are helping residence process the wounds of war. a busy morning at the clinic in the key of suburb hostile no bullet holes in the windows, bear witness to the russian occupation. medical staff have been working round the clock since the clinic reopened in april because they're dealing with visible and invisible grants. i think is kind of a collective trauma or if you're laclare with people living in the communities, honorable psychologist malcolm hugo has joined. the operation here is part of the internatio

a, we're now joined by a frederick obama from the german media outlet dish bigger. he is, one of the about 30 investigative journalist behind this story. so very good to have you with us. first of all, after years of denial by the chinese government, your research gets hundreds of thousands of abuse wiggers a face. please help us to understand the meaning of it by sharing the story that stood out most for you. thinks the most important thing about that in general police files is that we now see from places attached to this crime, a few minutes to receive thousands of people, the pain in cam northwest in china. we see a 15 year old children being detained, up to elderly women, not like 70 degree old women, be detained there. and 1st of all, 1st and foremost, we see the argument of the chinese government contracts. the argumentation so far was that this, this location of schools that people out there on their own, well they, they could leave whenever they want. but in the documents that were a leak to us, we see no shoot to kill policy. we see that the reverse in thos

obama? >> no, i did not. i wanted a statue of abraham -- of frederick douglass on one side watching the black man rise up out of poverty and i wanted the black man who was rising up out of slavery to look at the first black president. did i not vote for obama either term but obama's presidency is a historical fact and it goes to the fact that this nation is not systemically racist. >> bret: we appreciate your time. we will be covering this vo closely tonight. and we look forward to covering the general election as well. thank you. >> thank you. >> bret: as mentioned early jesper mast son call thernl seeking after sur buoy tent flirs item. , donald trump asking voters to him him a after -- fred budd continues to have a comfortable lead in the polls going in. he is vying for the seat vacated by retiring republican senator richard burr. coming up, striking numbers from the southern border illegal crossings. you will want to hear these. one of the most significant developments in john durham's investigation into russians origin probe heads to trial. later we will introduce you to an american who is working hard

those words, those aspirations, used by people like frederick douglass, to martin luther king. to barack obama'm wondering do you look at something much like the bombing of the 16th street baptist church that actually shook people out of this lethargy. shook people that martin luther king jr. called the moderates that shook people because people were awakened from their sleep. >> yeah, we tell the story of the 16th street baptist, we don't tell the story that birmingham exploded after that. that there was in fact a riot, quote-unquote. black folks' anger spilled over at that moment but you have to go through the fire in order to get to the other side. oftentimes, joe, part of the difficulty is we don't want to grapple with the intimacy of our hatreds, right. folks knew this boy, just like the folks knew the people who tied the rope around emmett till's neck. these are folks okay with the fact that buffalo is segregated. people are clear with the fact that the country in its day-to-day living is deeply segregated. that we're walking mysteries to each other. that the soil that allows for this gu