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the texas department of public safety says the suspect was on the premises for about 40 minutes. a school resource officer, they say, confronted him, but the suspect kept going, entered the school, walked into a double classroom, locked the door, and began shooting. video has emerged appearing to show desperate parents outside the school. some appearing frustrated with law enforcement. we should note this -- it's unclear at the time, precisely at what point this video occurred as well as what actions law enforcement was taking at the moment. the ap reports one parent whose daughter was killed, said he was upset police weren't moving more quickly. he has confirmed that sentiment to nbc news. and that he made that statement. nbc news has reached out to the texas department of public safety for comment, but its director has previously said the gunman was engaged immediately and that two officers were wounded. we're also learning more details about what exactly what happened before the rampage here at the school. some time around 11:00 a.m. local time on tuesday, may 24th, the suspec

all eyes are now on the police response at robb elementary. >> the director of the texas department of public safety says officers waited too long to go inside and save children. benefit of hindsight where i'm sitting now. >> and of course, it was about the right decision the wrong decision. very there's no no excuse for that. a new timeline is now emerging at 11. 28. the gunman crashed his truck near the school. >> 2 minutes later, a teacher called 9-1-1 and said there was a man with a gun at 11. 31, the gunman started shooting in the school parking lot at 11. 33, he entered the school. investigators say he entered through a propped open side or made a turn down the hallway and entered rooms one 11 1.12 where he fired more than 100 rounds. 2 minutes later at 11. 35 3 officers entered the school by 12. 0, 3.19, officers are inside the school in the hallway. the student calls 9-1-1 from one of the classrooms at 12, 15 more tactical officers arrive. one minute later, the same student calls 9-1-1, for a 4th time and says 8 or 9 children are still alive in her classroom. but it's not until

i serve as the commissioner of insurance for the texas department of insurance. sure that insurance companies are appropriately and quickly handling claims. what our department does is oversee the health insurance as well as the workers compensation insurance claims. so if you are going to -- if you're a private sector employee, i'm sorry, if you're a public sector employee, those employed by the school district or first responders, they'll have workers compensation coverage. private sector employees should check with their employer to see if they carry workers comp. workers comp covers mental illness and ptsd, so please make sure that you are taking advantage of that benefit for you. we have staff available at the fairplex center to help you start the process, for processing your workers compensation claims and to explain all of the benefits available to you under the system. >> thank you. now for the teachers retirement system, brian guthrie. >> thank you. good afternoon. my name is brian guthrie. i'm the executive director of the teachers retirement system of t

amazing grace right now, the timeline of what happened during the shooting is a big focus, the texas department of public safety says the suspect was on the premises for about 40 minutes, and we have this new video of the scene outside that school, appearing to show people pleading with law enforcement officials. >> y'all can't be like that, man, there's people -- >> yes, i do! >> get across the street! >> i'm going to go into the gate and get them! >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> you know that there are kids, right? they don't know how to defend themselves! >> we should note it's unclear exactly at what point this video occurred, and what actions that law enforcement was taking at this moment. we have reached out to the department of safety and the director previously said the government was engaged immediately, and two officers were wounded, meanwhile, the suspects neighbor is sharing new details from before the rampage at the school. >> i heard two banks, two shots i looked around and i couldn't see nothing. all of a sudden the door opens, and he comes out. the next thing she was all bloodied. >>

given the clarity of the latest version of events as laid out by the texas department of public safety based on videos and calls from the scene. i want to start with that. at 11:27 a.m., somebody at robb elementary school props a door open. it was 11:28 when the shooter crashed his truck behind the elementary school. two minutes later the first 911 call is made. a minute after that the shooter fired outside the school in the parking lot. the suspect went into the building at 11:33, went into the classroom, fired a hundred rounds three officers entered the school as the shooter did. two minutes later the gunman fires 16 more rounds by 11:51 as many as 19 officers were in the school hallway. a student inside the class with the shooter calls 911, whispering on the phone. the tactical unit requested by those officers arrived. that's when the student called back and said there are kids still alive. 12:16, 911 operators know there are kids alive in the room. the shooter fires again. at one point 19 officers in the building according to dps. 20 minutes later, another 911 call begging police t

the texas department of hub lick safety courage is providing counseling services for law enforcement.s also bringing in mental health services for law enforcement and could not be over emphasized the importance of law enforcement officers, all of them seeking out and obtaining this mental health counseling. the district attorney's office for victim services has a phone number available for all victims and the entire community in a what i is a victim here. and i was provided their number to give out to you publicly. this is the number for the district attorney's office for victim services. the number is 830-278-2916. and at this time i will pass the mic to lt. gov. dan patrick. >> excuse me, excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down. are you out of line and an embarrassment. sit down. get out -- >> no, you need to get back out of here. >> this is totally predictable when --? sir, are you out of line. sir, are you out of line! sir, you are out of line! please leave this auditorium. >> i can't believe you are a second son of a bitch that would come to a deal like this to make an issue. it's -- l

, highway patrol, texas department of public safety criminal investigative division, dps aircraft, dps intelligence counter terrorism division, dps crime and victim support. they are also supported by the texas division of emergency management, the fbi, as well as multiple federal partners, including the dea, hss, and border patrol. and the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, independent school district police, uvalde county constables, county mayor, county judge, district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police departments. and the san antonio police and fire department also. let me walk you through some of the facts of what has happened. there's been a lot of things said, some are correct, some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time. understanding very importantly this is an ongoing investigation. ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the first thing that happened was the gunman shot his grandmother in the face. she then contacted police. the

the texas department of public safety said that was the wrong decision. >> for the benefit of hindsight, now, it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision. there is no excuse for that. again, i was not there. i'm just telling you, for what we know, we believe it should have been entering as soon as you camp it where there is an active shooter, rules change. mark: the shooter got in through a school door that had been propped open by a teacher. law enforcement officials have faced mounting questions and outcry from parents and the community on the police's response to the massacre. senate democrats say they were more optimistic about a compromise with republicans on gun control legislation in response to the texas massacre. lawmakers say they plan to continue negotiations by telephone during their 10 day recess. sunday, president biden will travel to texas to honor the victims of the shooting. texas governor greg abbott is reportedly dropping plans to address the national rifle association's annual meeting in person today. he will deliver a taped message to the nra instead. t

and there is with the action being taken by local law enforcement as the texas department of safety.hen i will give you a submission about that. the shooter was salvador ramos, an 18—year—old male who resided in uvalde. it believes that he abandoned his vehicle and entered the robb elementary school with a handgun and he may have also had a rifle but thatis he may have also had a rifle but that is not been confirmed that my most recent report. he shot and killed horrifically, incomprehensibly 14 students and killed a teacher. mr ramos the shooter, he himself is disease. and is believed that responding officers killed him. it appears that two responding officers were struck by rounds but have no serious injuries. the back independent school district police department is the investigating agency and we will provide them and the city of uvalde substantial investigative and patrol assistance. we are in the process of obtaining detail on the subject, his motive, the type of weapon used, the legal authority to possess them and conduct a comprehensive crime scene investigation and reconstru

the texas department of public safety says the incident commander made the decision to wait instead ofng in immediately searched, sir, who was the incident commander and has that chief consolidated school district is that he's good man and has that person been raised is a cool. he's the chief of police. okay. i think this is sped up. >> yeah. yeah. that's the record discussed this. won 30 were clear that they should have gone right again. you know, i'm not going dps says the chief believe the situation had transition from active shooter to a barricaded gunman. >> they say he was wrong and the waiting may have cost lives. forget how do without parents. we're me. >> officers and stuff like that. we take an too, hold a lot of the tech people when time something tragic like said, we want to know what happens if we can do better next time. bottom line, we call it like it is for this tragic. >> making that nightmare even worse. that was brian entin reporting for us tonight, texas law enforcement admitting that the lead officer mishandled the shooting is raising new questions tonight about tr

listen now to what the director of the texas department of public safety said today. however, the benefit of hi site where i'm sitting now, that of course it was another right decision the wrong this is very, there's no, no excuse for that. but again, i wasn't there, but i was telling you for what we know, we believe there should have minute an x ray that as soon as you can a when there's an active shooter that the rules change is no longer. okay. it's no longer barricaded. so if you have time, you don't worry about later. printers, there isn't steven mccaul, there, the director of the texas department of public safety. i want to go now to our correspondence. stephan simons, he's been covering the story forwards the entire week in texas. he's still in texas, which define, i want to get your reaction to what we discovered today at me. we are talking about a major, major error in judgement and a breakdown in communication with the police. i can tell you that there is a lot of people out there who, who don't have the kindest words for what they listen to and what they le

i'm hear from the texas department of housing and community affairs. ng the community council south central texas. that i have a field office here at the family assistance center. they're already passing out grocery and gas cards. they can help with lodging expenses and extended family. maybe a grandma is here and she needs help with gas, lodging. it's very flexible and we're locking forward to helping as many people as possible. thank you. >> last is the head of the texas education agency. >> >> thank you. dea has been working in close coordination with the school system. i want to say thank you to hal for your leadership. and for the work that all of our educators have done that the agency provides support directly in the form of grant funds. we have offered several mental health counselling services. they have been provided around the clock and this began. we'll continue to provide support as the district prepares for this summer. >> whether it's the services you heard about or many more that you talked about providing to local officials, the state o

a spokesman for the texas department of public safety is joining us right now. let chris olivarez. lieutenant, thank you so much for joining us. as you well know, officers were on the scene within minutes of the gunman entering that elementary school but it was another hour or so before the gunman was neutralized. can you walk us through what exactly law enforcement was doing for 60 minutes or so while the shooter remained in that classroom killing those kids and teachers? >> good evening, wolf. of course, that's something we want to clarify. there is a lot of conflicting statements and reports that are being shared. also on social media. that's why we want to provide factual information by corroborating that information through physical evidence. this is still early stages in the investigation. that's one thing we need to understand. we are trying to have a concrete timeline in place. of course, you heard earlier today when we held our press conference we were able to provide some of that information. one thing i want to stress s though is that officers were in the building within

initially the texas department of public safety said the resource officer at the school fired at the gunman but steve mcgraw, director of the texas dps said he did not. >> it was a brave, independent school district resource officer that approached him, engaged him. at that time gun fire was not, changed. confronted him. he followed him right in immediately. >> so if this version of events is accurate, that means an armed school officer responsible for the safety of the children and teachers inside saw a man dressed in tactical gear carrying an assault rifle and did not use force to stop him from entering the school and killing 19 children and two of their teachers. nbc news reached out to texas dps for comment previously. the director said the gunman was engaged, quote, immediately and that two officers were wounded. inside the school a teacher heard gunshot as end of year celebrations were in full swing. speaking to nbc news on the condition of anonymity, she described what followed. she shouted for her kids to get under their desks and sprinted to lock her classroom door. the child

>> well, poppy, despite reports to the contrary, texas department of public safety spokesperson is now saying both the uvalde police department and the uvalde independent school district are still cooperating with state investigators. however, the chief of police for the school district has not responded to any follow-up requests for an interview and it has now been days. today, also, though, begins the funerals for 19 children that were killed and the two adults, the beginning of what is going to be a long process here in this town. >> one week ago, 19 families sent their children to school and they never came home, leaving loved ones only memories as community members, even actor matthew mccauneheigh whose hometown is uvalde pay their respects. they can't help but think about those last moments as they prepare to lay to rest, the funeral for 10-year-old rodriguez is the first, she's remembered by family as sweet, charismatic and loving as seen in this video with her cousin. >> her classmates say she was grabbing all the other student and see telling them where to hide before the gunm

texas protocols include materials that were reviewed on trained on with the uvalde police department two months ago. this included instructions to essentially go the immediate priority is to disable the shooter. this is even if there are injured. they need to bypass. if there are children crying out for help. this was clearly not part of the protocol. there are different protocols for a barricade situation, a hostage situation. they are saying that the decision that it was a barricade situation was a wrong one. we heard from the texas public safety director, stephen mcgraw, this is what he had to say. >> by the way, texas embraces active shooter training, active shooter certification. that doctrine requires -- i don't care what agency your from. you do not need a leader on the scene. every officer lines up, stacks up, goes for the rounds are firing ad and keep students of the subject is dead. >> there is an investigation underway right now to try to figure out exactly what happened and how and if officers will be held accountable. we don't see fbi is involved in the investigation. do

of course, the texas department of public safety says these officers did everything they could. they're promising a complete investigation. this is still early on in that investigation. here in uvalde many parents today are asking those questions and pressing for answers after what is an unspeakable tragedy, chris. of course, we've been seeing friends, family and neighbors here paying their respects, laying flowers right here at the school throughout the morning. chris. >> jose, anger, frustration, obviously heartbreak. you were just looking at the paper. we can show it to people, the local paper. it was stark to see the cover of that paper in all black. when you went on the air three hours ago, i was watching you. there was a group of residents who seem to be in a circle praying near the front of the school. tell our viewers about this community, jose, how it's even possible to process what has happened there. >> reporter: i think this really encapsulates what a lot of people are seeing right now, just darkness and uncertainty and tears. yes, there are some that are very, very

the state of texas, and swift action is being taken by local law enforcement as well as the texas department of public safety. they obviously now know who the shooter was and he is no longer alive. let me give you some details and i'll give you estimation about that. the shooter was salvador ramos, an 18—year—old male, and it's believe he admitted his vehicle and entered into the robb elementary school in uvalde with a handgun and may have also had a rifle. that is not yet confirmed. he shot and killed horrifically and incomprehensibly14 students and killed a teacher. mr salvador ramos the shooter, he himself is deceased. and is believed that responding officers killed him. it appears that two responding officers were struck by a salvador ramos but have no serious injuries he uvalde independent district school police department is the investigating agency and we will provide them and the city of uvalde substantial assistance. when the process obtained detail background on the subject, his motive, the types of weapon used and the legal authority to possess them and conduct a comprehensive cri

lieutenant chris oliver's of the texas department of safety described the next steps of the investigation, morgan chesky. >> our texas changers are the lead investigators right now. they're working with fbi, atf. they want to conduct a thorough investigation, go through every single piece of evidence, -- and try to determine exactly what happened. of course, we want to be aware, we want to know what took place, which rugged this gunman to cause this horrific tragedy here in the small community. >> now, we expect to learn more in the coming days, as these agencies investigate this, but still, a lot of unanswered questions. joining me now -- former member of president obama's task force. mr. alexander, thank you for joining us this evening. since the shooter was reportedly shot on sight by law enforcement, we do not have much information about him or his motives. we know he allegedly shot his grandmother before driving to the elementary school. what is your reaction to the reporting that, before this mass shooting, he shot one of his relatives? what do you think was transpiring in his mind

departments? >> we don't have any hard numbers on that. i know that it's pretty common in texas their independent school districts to have their own police department. >> but why would a school district create its own police department? why not rely on local city, county police or sheriff's departments to protect schools. mack hardy says it's so the school police department can train officers to its own standards and have more control over them. >> if you have a police officer working for a sheriff or for a police chief in a municipality, and if there's a manpower shortage, they may have a need for the city to pull that officer out of the school for a day, and we know that not having an officer inside a school, they can't do what they're supposed to do. >> cnn has reached out to chief pete arredondo for response to the criticism of him. we have not heard back. >> brian todd reporting for us. thank you very much. >>> joining us now, representative veronica escobar, a texas democrat and member of the house judiciary committee. representative, thank you so much for joining us. the

as for whether or not anyone tried to stop him from entering, yesterday director of the texas department of public safety said this. >> there was a brave -- resource of a certain person, that approached and engaged him at that time. then gunfire was not exchanged. >> but today the department told me this. was there a school officer on campus and was that school officer armed? because that is what we have been told. >> no. no. there was not an officer ready and available. >> four minutes after the shooter entered, local police arrived at 11:44 am. the officers were treated after fire and called for reinforcements. >> we needed body armor. we need assistant riflemen and negotiators. they were also evacuating personnel and students and teachers. >> a tactical team arrived at 12:47 pm. >> tactical teams arrive. with orders his shoot and kill the suspect. >> police acknowledge that the shooter was in a classroom for an hour before they were able to take him out. video taken after the shooting rampage shows loved ones being restrained outside the school. unable to get to the children, they beg

on keep shooting until the subject is dead. >> earlier today, stephen mccraw the head of the texas departmentse press conference providing more information but the fatal shooting at robb elementary in one uvalde, texas on tuesday. those details in the constantly evolving explanations of the police response on tuesday, may reporters and all of us have more questions than answers. why did the school vic -- decided there was no longer an active shooter situation, why was the school district police chief in charge of all of these officers from all of these different agencies, why did they continue to wait even after a special tactical border patrol team arrived, whose lives could've been saved in the time they spent waiting. if active shooter training means every single officer lines up, goes in, and shoots until the subject is dead, why did they do the exact opposite? joining us now is cedric alexander, msnbc adolescent former member of president mamas task force on policing, mr. alexander, thank you so much for being here tonight, a lot of tough questions, a lot of unanswered questions does it

i'm frank mallicoat, the director of the texas department of public safety, providing some new information today, different from that original timeline. fox's lauren blanchard reports from eovaldi, where frustrations with authorities is growing. police now admitting they were wrong for standing outside of texas classroom as a gunman shot children inside. yes 9112 police and the police now. students and teachers frantically called 911 as a gunman opened fire on rob elementary school tuesday, the 18 year old suspect crashed a vehicle then began shooting at classroom windows. the school resource officer drove right by him. the gunman then entered the building through a door that was propped open by a teacher inside , firing more than 100 rounds and locking himself in a classroom. that officer was not on scene, not on campus. but had heard the 911 call. so he drove right by the suspect who was hunkered down behind the vehicle where he began shooting at the school, texas department of public safety says as many as 19 officers were in the school hallway for at least an hour before border patrol

in this process, the texas rangers are leading the investigation and they're supported by the texas departmentc safety highway patrol, investigative division dps aircraft intelligence counterand terrorism division dps crime and victim support they're also supported by the texas division of emergency management the fbi as well as multiple federalal partners, including the eta and border patrol. and the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, uvalde independent school district police uvalde mayor, the county judge, district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police department. and the san antonio police and fire department also let me walk you through some of the facts of what has happened there's been a lot of things that's been said some are correct, some incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time, understanding importantly, that this is an ongoing investigate and they often reveal new informations as those investigations progresses. the first thing that happened was the gunman shot his grandmother in the face. s

the texas department official is with these reports at the press conference. he would only say that those reports have not yet been verified. look, the point in raising him about the law enforcement response, certainly, is not to pick on officers who, may well have been brave in doing their best in an unbelievably stressful, and highly threatening situation. that law enforcement, more and more law enforcement, really, the only response to school shootings or proposed, or allowed, by the republican officials who and the state of texas. after the santa fe high school shooting in 2018, the state passed multiple bills to, quote unquote, harden schools. the uvalde school district doubled its security budget, and created its own police force, threatening assessment teams and each school. when there is the scourge of school shootings, they are responding to schools better, and they show the credit. they have a lot of questions, and how will it worked. joining us now, in uvalde texas, is an investigative reporter by the austin american-statesman. thank you again for j

the texas department of public safety revealing a teacher propped open and exterior door moments before-old suspect entered the elementary school immediately unleashing on innocent students. twenty officers were said to be in a hallway outside of the classroom more than 45 minutes before border patrol agent used a master key to open the door and confront the gunman who barricaded himself inside the room full of children. texas dps acknowledging it was the wrong decision not to reach the classroom sooner. president biden but had to uvalde this weekend to meet with families and community leaders at the white house pushing for additional gun reform. julian turner is at the white house with the latest. >> president biden is in delaware right now but sunday he and the first lady will head to uvalde well they will meet with family members of the school shooting victims as well as local and community state leaders, they will meet with local officials on the ground. one person the of administration is not committing to engage with his border patrol agents injured while in the line of fire tuesd

the community hoping, obviously, for more answers from the texas department of safety at the top of this press conference. what are we expecting? >> reporter: we are minutes away from hearing from dps. officials yesterday sounded at a loss for words. >> let's go -- i'm sorry. let's go live to the press conference. it's just started. >> social or digital media footprint of the subject. 11:27, we know from video evidence, 11:27, the exterior door, suspected of what we knew, the shooter entered, ramos, was propped open by a teacher. 11:28, the suspect vehicle crashes into the ditch as previously described. the teacher runs to the room 132 to retrieve a phone. that same teacher walks back to the exit door and door remains propped open. two males, as reported by the regional director, two males at a funeral home, when they heard the crash, they went to the scene. when they arrived, they saw a man with the gun exit with a backpack. they began running. ramos began shooting at them. did not hit them. one of the males fell when he was running. both males returned to the funeral home while running

rob elementary school, texas department of public safety now , says students reportedly called 911 multiple times begging for help while trapped inside the classroom with the gunman. yes. i was misled. i am livid. about what happened. there are people who deserve answers. the most. and those are the family's whose lives have been destroyed. we're also learning new details about the suspected gunman. police say they had no reason to believe he was going to unleash violence that day, except for facebook messages immediately before the shooting. the grandfather of the shooter says he has no idea why his grandson did this. i wasn't in the inside his main i don't know what he was thinking or what? if he had this plan. meanwhile several rallies took place nationwide, calling for new laws on gun control. in the wake of this week's mass shooting to those who are attending the nra convention across the street. yeah. are not our enemies. we are not yours. the one star foundation has sete victims, families with financial help and anything else they may need in texas. lauren blanchard, fox news senate

everything that happened and i might add, understand it from a source with more credible than the texas' department of public safety. we have been mis -- misled by that department by multiple members of that department all week. if i were running the fbi' response and collaboration in this investigation right now, i wouldn't take anything they said at face value. i would want to verify every single finding with my own, independent evidence. i expect that is what the fbi is doing now, and it would be that sort of investigation that leads to true accountability hopefully. >> and on that note, i want to show yo the viewers, your exchange, shimon, with the director of the texas department of public safety today. >> you have people who are alive, children who are calling 9-1-1 saying, please, send the police. they are alive in that class room. there are lives that are at risk. >> we are both well aware of that. >> right. why was this decision made not to go in and rescue these children? >> again, you know, the on-scene commander considered a barricaded subject and that there was time and no children at

in this process that the texas rangers are leading the information and are supported by the texas department, criminal investigative division, dps aircraft, dps intelligence counter terrorism division, dps crime and victim support, and the texas division of emergency management, the fbi, as well as multiple federal partners including the dea, atf, hsi, and border patrol. and, of course, the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department, police department, independent school peace officers, district attorney's office, local public works, and surrounding police departments, and the san antonio police and fire department, also. looking through some of the facts of what happened. there's been a lot of things that have been said. some are correct. some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time. understanding very importantly this is an ongoing investigation and ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the first thing that happened was that the gunman shot his grandmother in the face. she then contacted police.

nbc's morgan chesky is in uvalde and spoke with chris --, lieutenant and spokesperson with the texas departmentlic safety for the south texas region about today's tragic events. >> well we do know is, obviously, this took place i had initially a domestic disturbance, between his grandmother and the suspect. the grandmother is alive. at that point, localized enforcement, received -- an unarmed gunman nearby, in close proximity to the school. at that point the gunman made entry into the school. and had complete disregard for human life, just an evil person. he started shooting kids and anyone in his way. teachers. he had no regard for human life. >> just walking through the school opening fire? >> yes, we know he was armed with some type of long rifle. we are trying to determine exactly what type of rifle and how he obtained it. we do have atf on scene working with us, trying to make recommendations. but once he made recommend entry to the school, he continued shooting, people shooting children. at that point, brave law enforcement -- i want to praise the law enforcement of the small community an

department. there's police officers stationed at the school. they are local law enforcement. that's not the case in texas. the uvalde school district has its own department with six officers and a chief. when the 911 call was made by a teacher, it went to the school district officer that responded in the patrol car heard about the call. what we don't know is when the children in classroom were call ing 911, presumably the calls were going to a police or county dispatch center and whether that word got to the school police officers, we don't know. whether there was a mutual aid frequency that everybody was on, whether everybody gets the 911 call information or data, we you don't know that. that's one of the questions here. another thing made clear is the officers in the hallway, they sort of half followed the columbine, post-columbine protocol. in columbine the officers waited outside the school for the swat team to arrive. here the officers did go into the school but they took fire and the texas department of public safety said today that ramos was shooting at them through the door. the rounds of his hig

texas department of public safety asked about it earlier. >> reporter: how it is the officers officersere for an hour but yet no one was able to get inside that room? >> we will circle back with you. we want to answer all your questions. we want to give you the why. that's our job. give us time. i'm taking all your questions. i'm taking them back to the team. >> harold: jeff paul is on the ground in texas and we've got a few questions for you. that may ask, is there a sense that there are things in this timeline that we still don't know? the things are going to come out that materially change the way we think about this has been the case in the last few hours as we heard that the texas department of public safety spokesperson there? >> i think absolutely. you bring it up. the hour between the first time officers and law enforcement make contact with the suspect and the hour that passed between them killing him. it is what took place in that hour, especially when we see these videos of parents who understandably are very emotional and want to get into the school and figure out if their

according to texas department of public safety, it was in fact true.sman told us that a school resource offer assigned to the elements or school exchanged gunfire with the suspect for the suspect entered the school. in an interview with cnn, estrada stated the gunman "engaged" the school resource officer and during that shoot outcome of the gunman dropped a black bag containing ammunition. the director of the texas department of public safety, steve mcgraw, confirms this happened. "the bottom line is law enforcement was there, they did engage immediately." so that was the story, and again, we were happy to believe it. but it doesn't seem to be true. a witness who lives next to the school said he saw everything that happened. he said to the associated press he had watched him crash his truck outside elementary school, take a rifle and shoot at two people at a funeral home nearby. he then began shooting at the school building before running inside of the school about 10 minutes later. according to him there were no police officers at the school to engage

chesky is in uvalde and spoke with chris all of our as, lieutenant and spokesperson with the texas departmentf public safety for the south texas region about today's tragic events. >> well we do know is, obviously, this took place i had initially a domestic disturbance, between his grandmother and the suspect. the grandmother is alive. at that point, localized enforcement, received -- an unarmed gunman nearby, in close proximity to the school. at that point the gunman made entry into the school. and had complete disregard for human life, just an evil person. he started shooting kids and anyone in his way. teachers. he had no regard for human life. >> just walking through the school opening fire? >> yes, we know he was armed with some type of long rifle. we are trying to determine exactly what type of rifle and how he obtained it. we do have atf on scene working with us, trying to make recommendations. but once he made recommend entry to the school, he continued shooting, people shooting children. at that point, brave law enforcement -- i want to praise the law enforcement of the small communi

the texas department of public safety made a significant correction today yesterday, they told us a school resource officer tried but failed to stop the gunman from entering the school. now, they say, that didn't happen >> it was reported that a school district police officer confronted the suspect that was making entry not accurate he walked in unobstructed initially. >> well, those reports of a school resource officer were from the head of the texas department of public safety. in fact, here's their spokesman on fox news yesterday. >> there was an encounter between the school resource officer as well as the shooter, but because of those heroic efforts and because of the encounter from that school resource officer, that gunman dropped a bag, a backpack full of ammunition prior to going into this school. >> not true. now they say there was no school resource officer on campus at all when the gunman showed up. and new just tonight, another major change texas investigators tell nbc news that victims were found in four different classrooms. previously, they told us, the victims were all in on

from texas department of public safety lieutenant chris olivarez . we appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you, shannon. thank you. the timeline is modified and updated and clarified and i wan to walk you through it. there was a call around 11:28 o 11:30 and people try to assist the guy after his crash and he was shooting at them. he went into the school at 11:40 . half we clarified that there wa no one that attempted to stop them from going into the school? there wasn't a resource officer at that point? >> so we know for a fact there was not a school resource officer on site at that particular time. we do know that there was a school resource officer that responded to the scene and initially from those first took place, we were receiving information coming in and it wa very fluid and a very active investigation it still is edits early on to make any factual determinations. the school resource officer encountered the gunfire and exchanged gunfire. we have confirmed that's not th case and there was no encounter whatsoever with that initial school re

. >> reporter: texas department of public safety officials now backtracking saying there was no school officer on campus. was there a school officer on campus and was that school officer armed because that's what we've been told? >> no. no. there was not an officer readily available armed. >> reporter: saying the 18-year-old seen here armed with an ar style rifle entered through what appeared to be an unlocked door. >> from the grandmother's house to the school, into the school, he was not confronted by anybody. >> reporter: authorities also clarifying their timeline. at 11:28, the suspect crashed a truck near the school, then fired at two people outside a funeral home across the street before climbing the fence to robb elementary. at 11:30, the first 911 call came in. ten minutes later, the suspect entered the school. by 11:44, the first officers arrived. the suspect locking himself inside a classroom, firing numerous rounds. officials say those first responding officers couldn't get inside and called for back up, but tactical teams didn't arrive until about an hour later. that's when

let's take a listen to the texas department of public safety director and what he said earlier. i'll get back to you. speak with the benefit of hindsight, where i am sitting now of course it wasn't the right decision. it was the wrong decision, period. no excuse for it. i wasn't there but i'm telling you from what we know, we believe there should've been an entry as soon as you can. >> the chief of police, he was convinced. i want to go back and say he was convinced at the time that there was no more threat to the children and the subject was barricaded and they had time to organize with the proper equipment. >> texas embraces and teaches the active shooter doctrine as long as there's kids, as long as someone is firing, you go to the gun. find him and neutralize him. >> judge jeanine: the active shooter doctrine, harold. >> i want to give governor abbott a lot of credit. we are in a different party but for him to stand for the press and answer those questions, real leadership, accountable, shares credit with things go right and when things go wrong you're accountable and i give