daylight, they discovered their own special place, the remote for is clearing in the place called belton bridge park. the, park is much too grim word for them to pull up beside the -- river in north atlantic georgia. >> i knew them both very well. >> they were richard and stacey schoeck. and it was another. love their scout -- their love of scouting. >> how did you meet him? >> both our sons were cub scouts. >> with kids, boys especially, they were natural's. >> stacy was a ball of energy, full of ideas with literally drag us to do things. >> the go getter? >> but go getter. and we also joked and called her mom a spreadsheet. because everything that she did had to be laid out in a spreadsheet. >> what a plan, or have? >> she was. >> scouting is how bill -- >> richard was a good motivator. and i saw how much fun he was having. and, so i kind of asked if i could tag along. and i got involved with scotsman ship. >> stacy was a leader for the cup scouts. >> was she good with kids to? >> she was pretty good with the kids too, yeah, she was. she and richard, they worked well together. >> as they did with