josef aschbacher, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, thank you for having me.rt where i started in that introduction — your relationship with russia. it has exposed, has it not, the war with ukraine, the degree to which you've had to sever ties with the russian space agency? it's exposed a dangerous over reliance on cooperation with moscow? i mean, it is true that with the invasion of russia in ukraine, it was a wake—up call for many of us in the energy sector, in many other parts, that we suddenly have a war in front of our doors and also in space. and in space, what actually happened is exactly the same as in many other domains. the heads of states and heads of government of many european countries were encouraging everyone to embrace russia, to work with russia, get russia into the western sphere, and we did the same in space. we built the space station, we initiated large—scale projects worth billions of euros, or even more in roubles, and we worked together for several decades. and, yes, the war has changed things drastically, and that is actually quite a