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. >> kaitlin, i want you to stay with us and also bring in kasie hunt andra rahel solomon. kasie can make promises to bring prices down come hell or high water but the reality is there's no relief in sight immediately. >> there's no relief in sight and the reality is the president doesn't have that many tools. what kaitlin was reporting there, his trip to saudi arabia is evidence of that reality, that he does have to risk looking like he's compromising principles around jamal khashoggi to try to get some policies in place that will actually help get prices down here. >> that's the hope. we'll see what happens. rahel, what can american consumers, consumers expect as a result of this expected very dramatic interest rate hike? >> well, essentially, wolf, american consumers can expect the price to borrow increasing. you're already seeing it in mortgage rates. really borrowing costs across the board in terms of consumer loans like car loans, credit card rates, auto loans, mortgage loans. take a look at the 30-year fixed mortgage rate. at the beginning of the year, wolf, that was

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kasie hunt, gloria borger, evan asnos. it strikes me how the security posture in europe has changed. they discuss russia not just as a clear and imminent danger, of course, to ukraine, but to the alliance, to alliance members. i spoke to the estonian prime minister yesterday and she described the possibility of a russian attack on estonia, and that would therefore be an attack on the alliance. this is a very different europe. >> it is a radically different europe from the europe that we were in one year ago. and there is a deep irony in the fact that president putin literally his objective and intention was to up end the existing security agreement here in europe. he has succeeded in doing that, but not in the way that he had hoped to. very much the reverse. we are seeing a nato that is more robust, more united, and more muscular than we have seen in quite some time. it was just a few years ago president macron was saying that nato was experiencing a sort of brain death, i believe was the expression he used. and now you se

excellent points, kasie. evan, democrats clearly want more action from president biden right now, but as someone who has closely covered president biden's political career over the years, is the president unlikely to take any drastic major steps right now? >> well, what you see him trying to do is balance the realm of the possible with what he can achieve feasibly. what you have heard are there are executive actions he can take in the short term. look, there is no simple executive solution that would codify abortion rights into election law. that's going to be the job of congress. what they can do are things like insure that women are not prevented from going state to state, insure that the fda is able to provide medication abortion to people even in states where local lawmakers, state lawmakers might try to prevent that. you're going to see them use as creatively as possible the powers of the executive branch, but there's a longer term strategy that has to be a part of this, wolf, which is you have to insure

but that's different from a midterm. >> mary, one of the things that is interesting about this, kasielike the chief justice wanted to allow mississippi's 15-week ban but not go so far as to overturn roe. but the conservatives on the court outnumbered him. >> right. quite simply, this is evidence that this is no longer john roberts' court. if there was any doubt about that, this decision puts the final nail in that coffin. roberts had been outspoken during oral argument about this. there were leaks from the court suggesting he had been trying to persuade one or more of his colleagues to join him in what he passed off as a middle ground. that he had no takers. if he has no takers now in roe, which is of course the best known supreme court opinion, this is when the lights are shining the brightest, when concerns about the court's legitimacy are the most acute. his colleagues just aren't interested in that. you can question going forward to what extent he'll have any kind of leadership role in shaping the direction of the court. >> mary ziegler, kasie hunt, thanks. >> right across the str

for more let's bring back jamie, dana, and kasie hunt.what norm says, about these revelations from senior justice department officials. >> i think they were the most compelling hearings we have heard thus far, because these are conservative republicans, trump appointees, and what we heard once again today, you referred to it with norm, this was the just do it conspiracy, whether it was georgia, just find me 11,780 votes. rudy, aren't we all republicans? eastman, just do it. we will sort it out in the courts. trump depends, you can do it. there is one other thing that was mentioned this week but i think we should take note of. liz cheney said this week, that more than 30 witnesses. now, they had 1000, but more than 30 witnesses took the fifth . we know about a handful. who are these other people? >> interesting. the ones that we know include eastman, and jeffrey clark. i don't know if he took the fifth so much as claimed executive privilege. >> he took the fifth as well. roger stone, there are a lot of people out there that we do not know

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thank you. >>> and we're back now with kasie hunt and david gregory to talk about what was really anc interview full of so much information there, but i just want to zero in on one thing in particular which was you were agreeing when chris murphy was assess that go republicans are under some pressure because there is a shift in public opinion in their states that something has to be done. >> and you saw this, cnn had reporting that cynthia lummis the senator from wyoming said people are inundating my office with phone calls on this. i think this has been an ongoing sea change every single time one of these terrible tragedies has happened the pressure has gotten more and more intense. look at what happened in florida after parkland, rick scott, the governor, now he's running for president so the way he talks about it is different, we suspect he's going to run for president, but they all looked at this together and the republican legislature there across the board they made significant changes around a lot of the areas they are talking about here, red flag laws, other ways to try to pr

. >> let's bring in senior legal analyst ellie honing, chief national affairs analyst kasie hunt andlyssa farah griffin a white house communications director, she worked with meadows and is friends with cassidy hutchinson. all right. first, ellie, to you. what would you be asking if you are on the committee and you are interviewing pat cipollone, what would you be asking him? >> first question that is correct statement you made to cassidy hutchinson about every crime on the books, did you say that to mark meadows? did you say that to donald trump? because if he did and we don't know but it stands to reason that he did as white house counsel, that goes right to their intent. that means they were told by the most authoritative lawyer in the white house what we are doing right now is illegal in all of these ways and if they proceeded as it appears at the did that is remarkably damning as to intent. >> dana's reporting is that he might agree to a limited transcribed interview, in other words, he's going to carve out some areas where he may not answer because of some privilege. what would

and the other thing -- and you touched on this kasie, is compared to what? >> right. if somebody else who may be more palatable on these issues but still trumpy on other issues, donald trump could walk right up the center in that nomination. but if he's facing one person the whole time, different ball game. >> thanks so much. we want to continue what would come next in these hearings. david urban, laura coates, gloria s these were originally expected to wrap up pretty soon. it's now been, gloria, extended -- do we even know when the next ones are? >> i think probably mid-july although, as you know, these things are dynamic. they could change at any moment. >> they say it's because they're getting what they called a deluge -- >> they're getting a lot more information. i was also told by one of my committee sources is that there's archival information that we don't know about. >> how much of this is also -- i mean if the supreme court ruling on abortion comes out, say, next week, that that's going to take aug all the news coverage and they don't want to compete with tha

. >> with our kasie hunt and we'll break down to solve all the world problems.or biden is just not getting it right? >> what those periods tend to have in common is wages are dropping that what you can command for a paycheck is going down. that's true to this economy, too. wages have been growing but not been keeping up with prices because prices are growing faster. that's spg omething that makes people unhappy and more people are paying money at the pump and struggling with problems of unemployment so it hits more voters. >> you can tell people that the economy is -- well, wages are fine and you can tell them unp unemployment is really low. >> when they go to the store, they know what they're making is not covering issues. >> it is one of these things where people know things are not working well and their life, plus, everybody still extremely is shower about this pandemic. we are tired of the covid. >> i mean anyone at the table, what a miserable 2.5 years. people are miserable and things are getting better. >> every time it seems like we take two steps furthe

joining him, jamie begin -- gingel and kasie hunt. what is significant about this, about meadows calling in to him? >> let me go back to, what white house chief of staff needs to be leaving the white house the night before, and we now know, everyone knows that there's going to be trouble tomorrow and he's running over to a war room with rudy giuliani over at the willard hotel? and it took -- cassidy is now, i think, 26 years old. at the time she was 24 years old. she had to be the one to tell him this really isn't appropriate to go. look, one of the footnotes -- there were so many bombshells, cinematic moments. let's talk about the fact that she testified that rudy is walking around talking about the oathkeepers and the proud boys. my understanding is, in the hearings to come, you know better than anyone, that we were going to see more and more of a connection between some of these groups and the white house, and that testimony about rudy is a very interesting starting point. >> it's absolutely so critical, this point that you raise.

this is being confirmed by kasie hunt, and others. our colleagues doing this great reporting.at is flushing out a mystery that liz cheney teed up on tuesday as hutchinson is sitting at the end of the testimony, cheney raiseed this specter of witness tampering and describes that the committee as they're bringing witnesses in has been asking them has anyone contacted you? has any former colleagues contacted you? can you tell us about any attempts to impact your testimony? and cheney did not reveal who the witnesses were? we can say one was hutchinson, but both witnesses cheney gave examples of received phone calls, and the phone calls cheney quoted them being things like people telling witnesses do the right thing. you want to stay in good graces in the trump world. trump does read transcripts of the hearings. make sure you're aware of that. another was someone was saying to the witness, that he, an unnamed person, wants me to let you know he's thinking about you and you're going to do the right thing when you come in for your deposition. we don't have information about which on

kasie, does it sound like there will be more hearing to deal with these developments?t they're acutely aware, in my conversations with people working on it, they know this is the window. this is when they have america's attention. they need to do as much as they possibly can in this space and time. it doesn't rule out anynecessar. they're up against a hard deadline, november of this year when it's likely the democrats will lose the house and ultimately this committee won't exist anymore. >> you're a legal analyst, laura. the committee hasn't made any decisions that we know of about whether to make formal criminal referrals to the u.s. justice department, for example. how big of an issue is this, and is there serious disagreement among committee members? >> we learned last week there was this notion on the one hand bennie thompson saying they weren't going to and liz cheney coming back and saying leave everything open for that very reason. you see attorney general merrick garland said we're watching very closely and my january 6th prosecutors are watching closely. they

i'll get perspective from political insiders like michelle caudal, kasie hunt, and scott jennings.reaction. we went from the headline as the big lie to now the big ripoff. did that set well with you? >> i was stunned at the amount of money that guilfoyle made for that speech. i'm sorry. i mean -- >> don't you want to be paid $400 a second, scott? the words coming out of your mouth right now -- >> i've got to renegotiate. >> that is a startling thing. if i were donald trump or around donald trump right now, my eyebrows would be raising. who is profiting off of me? so that caught my attention today. the other thing that caught my ateng is the fact you had really credible people, bill stepien, professional, credible guy. the attorney general. jason miller. i mean, all these people were saying, look, we don't know what's going to happen. they're still counting the votes or whatever. and he was venue shopping and struck me as someone who really spent their entire life being told yes by everything they encounter and constructing a world of yes. and all of a sudden you have these politica

cnn's kasie hunt has been following the story.as only appeared in previously recorded edited social media videos. >> hey, everybody. i just want to say i'm feeling great, and i just want to thank all of you so much for everything. we're doing really well. we just want to thank you for all of your support. can you chip in $10 to help our campaign now? >> so fetterman's campaign just released a letter from his cardiologist just this afternoon. what does it say? >> well, the letter from the cardiologist, first of all, we should underscore, his cartiologist is not a team of doctors who treated him for the stroke. that team was at penn medicine in lancaster. this is a cardiologist he saw back in 2017 who told him he had heart problems. the doctor says in this letter that if john fetterman takes his prescribed medication, does the diet and exercise that he has been recommended to do, he will be fine. he will be able to serve in the u.s. senate. but there's quite a bit in that letter that underscores that fetterman didn't take care of hi

joining us cnn chief national affairs analyst kasie hunt and the former fbi director, andrew mccabe,f legal analyst jeffrey toobin. how big of an admission is this from former secretary of education betsy devos especially coming on this, the first night of these public hearings? >> it's pretty remarkable, wolf, because there is the first time we think that we've heard this directly from one of the people involved in these conversations, an acknowledgement from someone who would have been in line to make a decision along those lines and the way she explained it had to do with the then sitting vice president mike pence who seemed to indicate he didn't want to go down this route. we also know it was discussed by members of congress. we heard kevin mccarthy on tapes that were published by a pair of new york times reporters where he discusses whether the 25th amendment is something that's actually possible. the time line would have been too long to sort through this at the time, but i think big picture, this helps us get an additional window into how the republicans that trump had include

kasie hunt, lauren lopez, and -- lori, you covered the white house here.lde ten days ago, tulsa yesterday. the president travelled to buffalo, traveled to texas. now addressed the american people, to what end is the question? >> yeah. and right now what the white house said the speech would be about is about the negotiations in congress and calling on congress to act. the white house invited to date has basically taken a step back from the negotiations, and has said he wants to give those lawmakers that are working on it in the senate the space to work on it. and he hasn't really been getting in the nitty-gritty with them on what are ultimate changes to gun laws will be. >> the white house democrats, they have a narrow majority, but a majority. they are moving ahead. they want to raise the age to purchase some have even said ban assault weapons. but on the table raising from 18 to 21 the age. more background checks. other proposals. the conversations in the senate have been about red flag laws and background checks. is there -- is the president at a point

. >> abby phillip, jamie gangel ca casey kasie hunt and john king are all back with us.ple don't understand, the trump supporters don't understand, is bill barr, jeffrey rosen, all these folks, the u.s. attorney b.j. pak, they would have loved to find fraud to make their boss happy. they wanted to please him. but there wasn't any fraud. >> as i frequently say about all the testimony coming out now is better late than never, but where were they at the time? i'm told the thursday hearing is going to be even more compelling and effective than what we heard today. i'm told that jeffrey rosen, richard donahue, that they are blunt and they're going to lay out exactly what was going on at the time. i also just want to go back to cipollone and liz cheney, her calling him out today. david urban, we heard him say with anderson that there's no way cipollone's coming in toch the. that may be true, but expect a lot of pressure from the committee to try to get him there. >> because, of course, there is no reason for cipollone to not testify except for self-preservation in this particu

joining me on the panel, abby phillip, also jamie gangel, kasie hunt and john king.ight, we're out of time. i gave all their titles. one thing i want to run again because it was really amazing was senator ron johnson's response to manu raju asking why his staff member was reaching out to the staff of vice president pence with these fraudulent electors from his home state of wisconsin and michigan. let's roll some of that sound. >> why was he even asking for that? >> because somebody delivered this to our office and asked to deliver that to the vice president. >> did you support his efforts to try to get those slates to the vice president? >> no. i had no knowledge of this. >> who is the person -- >> you know, i had no involvement in an alternate slate of electors. i had no idea this would be delivered to us. it got delivered staff to staff. my chief of staff did the right thing, contacted the vice president's staff. they said they didn't want it so we didn't deliver it. again, that's the end of story. >> who's the person that delivered it to your office. >> i have no

what's going on with our chief political analyst, gloria borger, cnn chief national affairs analyst kasie hunt, and former nixon white house counsel john dean as well as cnn's michael smerconish. thank you for joining us. gloria, this committee is telling a story to the american public, indeed to the world. what do you expect? do you expect to see more powerful video emerge, more witnesses, new details woven throughout these next several days? >> absolutely. and weeks. this is a long, complex story. it's not just that a bunch of people decided they should march to the capitol and break in. and i think what the committee started to do last night, they will do in more detail. and talk about how this was a huge coordinated effort to undermine the election, and they believe that all roads lead to donald trump, and they're going to prove that and at the end of the hearings, and i think this is really important, they are going to say, this is an ongoing threat. and it could happen again. and get the american public to understand that the guardrails were off, not just because of trump but becaus

. >>> joining us now cnn chief national affairs analyst kasie hunt and the author of the "washingtonost" newsletter "the early 202" leanne caldwell. let's just talk about this. we've covered congress together at times, this is pretty amazing that this has happened, even as you have like president biden and others saying it's modest, obviously we know we wanted more, we didn't get t but this is hugely significant. >> it is. i mean, look t may be modest but it's still the most significant thing that's happened in decades on guns. obviously they still have a ways to go, the devil is in the details, they have to write the bill that lines up with this framework but they have taken significant steps here. one thing i would underscore is closing the boyfriend loophole which is something that congress has tried to do in other context, the violence against women act, other ways and they haven't been able to come to an agreement here. i think that underscores the big picture here and we've been talking about this that if this actually passes congress in a relatively quick way and there are a l

christiane, david axelrod, kaitlan collins, kasie hunt, gloria borger, evan asnos, thank you. so much to digest here. we'll be back shortly. i want to toss back to my colleague poppy harlow in new york. >> great coverage and so many significant headlines out of that presser. jim, clarissa, we'll get back to you in a minute. we're following a big development here from the january 6th committee, it has subpoenaed former trump white house counsel pat cipollone, who has key details about what the former president was doing on january 6th, as that mob attacked the capitol. hear next how he's responding. and at the top of the hour, the supreme court will issue its final two opinions of term, that as we were just discussing, has changed the landscape of our country and the world's view of our nation. these cases dealing today that will be decided on immigration policy and climate change will also have wide rafnging implications beyond those two topics. our special live coverage is next. when you have technology that's easier to contrtrol... that canan scale across all your clouds...

joining us now to discuss is cnn political analyst david gregory and cnn chief national affairs analyst kasie on to truth social, trmp's social sort of messaging site and he's saying he's there to call out republican lies. i wonder if you think, casey, he has a point asking democrats why they aren't being for aggressive. >> there is a reason why what you showed got some traction among people looking around and seeing what's going on. the president is a bit of a flawed messenger in this. he sort of explicitly has not been someone who has taken on these social fights. he's focused on economic issues or tried torques obviously that's another issue right now for the president of the united states, but for newsom to step into that void, i think one of the other things that's interesting is he currently is a blue state governor, you can debate what's going on in california whether he has had success or failure but it's red state governors that are doing a lot of what he's talk being there and saying we need to stand up. he is in a unique position. >> do you think this works, what he's doing? >> i'm

. >> with us to share the reporting and insights, kasie hunt. ariana sotomayor.er gotten this far, but there are still more paths to failure than success. why is this different? >> i mean, the optimism is different. it's very weird to actually see sustained positivity in negotiations. we have been here before. i think that's what he's been cautioning. we can go to literally the last minute and see things fail. but you do have good faith negotiators and republicans buying in and right now still mitch mcconnell buying in on this, and blessing his republicans in these negotiations. so at this point in time, they are finding middle ground, it looks like on a number of different issues. but how far, how much it will appease, potentially how democrats on the other side, that's still a question. >> and murphy is the top democrat in the senate negotiations. there's a separate house plan that's going to pass the house. most of it has no chance in the senate. so john cornyn is the top republican involved in negotiations. this is him earlier today. >> reporter: do you reali