valery savelyev anastasia popova typical, ukraine we will talk about the ukrainian eurovision movement towards the european union with our permanent expert historian alexandraasha hello hello sasha serious efforts in this direction. but not only power and money, probably some other public moods moved ukraine aside. and what was that mood? what people were they expressed? yes, this is a very good idea, because when we focus only on the elites, yes, then we are missing some very important part of the picture, but because, well, yes. of course there are, just people who are connected there with, uh, with the west, a lot of financial channels. yes, there are oligarchs, they keep their money there, and everyone understands that, of course, they will pull the country there. yes, there are just politicians, about which we often say it there. grenade-eaters, who are just hired uh, so to speak, an asset of the western structures and with them. in general, everything is also clear, but these people would never have been able to realize their goals and their plans if they, well, did not rely on some wider social strata. therefore , who are the people who went out, inc