as i know a lot about other companies who belong to the ibew. and i know a lot about carolyn chiu. so again, there is a lot of ignorance among the commissioners. that line agenda or the agenda items coming before you should get some sort of orientation before you bring it to the public. one commissioner speak ill of the contractor who's really not a contractor. he's a labor management type of operation as we have in our project labor agreement. with some ties to the labor union. okay? and we know about 261 right here in san francisco, about their transparency and accountability. now, having said that, my concern because of the fires, are we going to put a high-power line up or could we put it underground? i was also thinking that we had [indiscernible] bringing in the water from hetch hetchy and now we are using three. i don't know how we could use the fourth pipe that is now lot used, but -- i was just thinking about it. now, how about having some sort of an orientation, some sort of a public-making -- >> sorry, caller, your time has expired. madam secretary, there are no other ca