pete strzok and tim o'brien are still here.there will be not one but two hearings next week by the january 6th committee. the second one is, i believe, their second primetime hearing. >> yeah, this shows us, nicole, that the testimony from cassidy hutchinson was a domino, and the committee staff were hoping that this was the case before that hearing. they were hoping that her testifying would actually give them reason to start extending their hearing deadline. if you remember, originally, the committee was going to wrap up its hearings on july 11th. now we have had more developments, new hearings getting added, more things being put into primetime, and again, it's because of that domino of cassidy hutchinson. she's causing more people to come forward. sara matthews, who's trump's former deputy press secretary, is someone who's now slated to testify. pat cipollone, of course, is going to go speak to the committee behind closed doors in a videotaped deposition. and i suspect that there's more to come, and the committee's hoping t

i mean, look, pete strzok, i want to show you congressman raskin makes a similar point in terms of the is solved as michael steele is saying we got it. we got him. let me show you that. >> we solved the mystery tonight, i would say. sherlock holmes had the story of where the dog that didn't bark was the key to solving the case, and here was the president who didn't act, and that was the key to solving this case, and this is like i was thinking about it tonight kind of a moral trial of the president where the whole country just gets to use their common sense and figure out what happened and there can be no question that donald trump was at the absolute center of the conspiracy to overthrow the election and to assault our democracy. >> so he's talking about a moral trial. it's obviously very different from a criminal trial with the fbi and doj running the investigation and prosecution. have you seen enough to be convinced that an investigation into donald trump should be open? >> oh, no doubt. there's no doubt in my mind that there should be an active investigation going on by the fbi an

pete strzok is here, former fbi counterintelligence agent.ngressional reporter. claudia, it's a pleasure to have you. take us inside where this leaves the committee, and i have to say the secret service statement is completely misaligned with the ig account. no one says "maliciously deleted. "they simply say they were not present because of a device replacement policy. >> right. it's really hard to follow the semantics in this one, and great to be with you, by the way, nicole. in terms of the statements, these competing statements, it is hard to parse out what is the correct story here, because we are hearing from this inspector general, who oversees the department of homeland security, which includes the secret service, of course, that these messages were deleted after a request, but then we hear from the secret service, no, no, no, that's not the case. we had been in this migration program for months, and when i followed up with the spokesman today, as to what does that exactly mean, he was telling me that it started out with a request, 20

administration, there was controversy about deletion of some text messages between two fbi officials, pete strzoka page. and ultimately the agency was able to go back into the system and find them. the secret service should be able to do that here. and if they can't, that will be a real red flag that something is seriously amiss. >> ali vitali, joyce vance, thank you both. and you can catch special coverage of the next january 6 hearing this thursday beginning at 7:00 p.m. eastern, 4:00 p.m. pacific right here on msnbc. >>> up next, what the white house has to say about the controversial visit of president biden to the crown prince of saudi arabia. we'll ask john kirby what the with the national security council coming up next. what th with the national security with the national security council coming ♪ ♪ aleve. who do you take it for? thinkorswim® by td ameritrade is more than a up nextplatform. it's an entire trading experience. with innovation that lets you customize interfaces, charts and orders to your style of trading. personalized education to expand your perspective. and a dedicated tra

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