we continue with bernadine dohrn, bill ayers, zayd ayers dohrn.ng at this history, your podcast, “mother country radicals," also tries to look forward to the future of activism. what did you find out about the next generation of activists? zayd: it is connected to this kind of violence. chesa boudin, when he was one and a half, they left him with a babysitter, went to rob the black liberation army, and spent decades on his own. he was with us and often spent time. kakuya shakur, her mother was imprisoned, had to flee to cuba, is still underground 40 years later. kakuya has talked about her mother has never met her children. assata shakur has never met her children. amy: this is kakuya shakur. zayd: this might be an impossible question, but do you think it was worth it what your mom tried to do, what your family went to for it? >> that is a deep question. i felt deeply loved by my mom, but i knew the struggle was more important, and the broader context. and so many points of our history, we had no choice but to struggle, resist. unfortunately, loss

investigation into hunter biden, more aggressive than anything bill barr did, they will be peddling more lies, the kinds of lies that ruined steven ayersor protest or chaos or disrespect for the fbi is a new horror, and a new low for the right, which is so far down on the low road, they can't see the sky anymore. and i think their reaction the last 24 hours has been disgusting. >> well, i agree with you, and i guess i will just, very quick question here for you. one of the things that we saw -- we've seen over the last months has been that there's not been a civil war in the republican party, but there's been some fractures between the trump dead-enders in the party and some who have kind of been like, we still like donald trump, but you know, he's got a lot of baggage. i'm talking about voters now. he's got baggage, give him a gold watch and go on and get somebody new in there. and the -- you know, thank you very much. thank you for your service, sir. but i guess i wonder whether you think what we've seen in the last -- in these hours since the -- since trump announced that this raid took place or not the raid. i won't say that. the s