lysyanskyi, the founder of the eastern human rights group and the director of the institute for strategic research and securitye welcome you, mr. pavlo, to begin with, we would like to ask about this voluntary evacuation of people from donetsk region, but voluntarily and necessarily, 250,000 people , these people, they will agree to move to safer regions of ukraine well of course they just volunteered to move well they agreed to move the question is whether there are such cities because well many people i know do n't want to go to europe people who still stay there well, that's how it was it is said that mobilization is mandatory in quotes because there is a function that is an option, let's say that a person writes a refusal of voluntary evacuation and then you don't wait for him to leave, i wonder how many people from donetsk region who will be called to leave donetsk region will choose the territory of ukraine for example, not the territory of russia, well, look at those who are under the control of the territory, yes, of course they will now go, then they will not be in the cordon territory of ukraine, tho

employees of the residents of e-e energodar and for the employees of the nuclear power plant pavlo lysyanskyi director of the institute of strategic research and security a human rights defender contact us mr. pavly, we welcome you, tell us a little more about these russians at the power plant, who gets there, why they get there, how to get out of there . practically all people who, er, arouse suspicion among russians, these are usually volunteers, pro-ukrainian activists, businessmen, here are other people. they get there, and you can only get out of there with the help of money . here we are. well, in this way, you can get out. it is actually a filtering prison. it performs filtering functions, but it does not only filter. it is located in the bunkers of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power station. the power plant in energodar, the wagners and the russians , the fbshniks, call it among themselves energy, it has an energy worker, that’s why it’s somewhere like that. that is, i can’t say that it is somehow different from other tours, let’s say the donetsk prison of isolation or something else , that is, well, the same prison, that is, they well, they organi