karl rove is also here and former secretary of state mike pompeo. lots to talk about as we look towards the mid-terms with all of the gentlemen that will be joining us shortly. that as 59% of the americans say the american economy is getting worse, not getting better as the white house takes a victory lap on a total of more than $3 trillion in spending to get the economy going, including lots of new taxes that are being levied out there if this bill goes through saying that it's a huge record of accomplishments now. we'll talk about the evolving narrative out of the white house and whether or not it's true. the bill is called the inflation reduction act. it's packed with green energy handouts as part of the push to transition. you've heard a lot about that. look at all of those on the list where this money is going, transitioning where you get your energy, green energy. it's a big part of what is in this bill. so this afternoon, we'll peel away the layers, show you what is actually in this bill and whether or not you can assess whether it was make l

forecasters and minds all of the country, former white house deputy chief of staff, fox news contributor karl rover. rove. senator mcconnell received a lot of attention for what he said this week, but, there are i heard from others who wonder whether the g.o.p. still has a chance to take the senate. what do you think? >> well, it does, it is up hill fight, we have 21 seats up, democrats have 14. we're playing defense in wisconsin. i am feeling good about ron johnson's chances, pennsylvania open seat left by the retirement of pat toomey. north carolina where ted bud is running for open seat have a waited. and florida where marco rubio not taking his opponent for granted. and then ohio where we had a candidate who won with about less than a third of the vote in 6 person primary. and has not been able to raise money, but mcconnell, despite vance attacked mcconnell during the primary, senator mcconnell is reserved 25 million dollars in advertising time. republicans you are right, they have to hold these, because if they hold these and pick up one they control senate, if they loews any of lose any they

good to have you here, sir. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: joining me now, karl rove, former chief of h and a fox news contributor. karl, good to have you with us. i should mention we're in the middle of this press briefing at the white house. we may dip in for just a moment if there's news out of there. the thinking now is that this would be unlikely to pursue a prosecution by the fbi prior to the election given the sort of unspoken rule or maybe it is spoken, 60 days prior to an election they wouldn't pursue this kind of case. what do you think about that, karl? >> i think that's likely. i also find it unusual -- again, i'm not a lawyer but strikes me that there are people that have some liability here. i'm not certain it necessarily yet is the president. having read that document, the fbi developed evidence when -- after they received the boxes, the 15 boxes in january, they developed evidence meaning that they had somebody that told them that those weren't all the boxes that had classified material. the fbi had somebody inside that said i think you got all the white house documents

karl rove, also loved karl rove, as a former white house deputy chief of staff and fox news contributoris is the paradox, is it not? no one really wants to endorse who's in the white house, but naturally the person they want to say, the vice president, they don't want to endorse her either. >> let's divide those into two separate questions. let's dive into the first one. "new york times" poll, should biden run again? 26% of democrats say, yeah, we'd like him to run again. the younger you are, the lower that number is. is that an outlier? cnn roughly the same time, about two weeks later, 25% say, yeah, let's have him run again. now, you know, it was 45% in the cnn poll when they asked it in february, which ain't a great number to begin with, but democrats are done with president biden. he won't be the nominee of the democratic party. he won't run. i've been saying this over a year. the democrats are not stupid enough to nominate somebody at the age of 82, who already has difficulties stripping together two sentences. that's the first part. >> jesse: the second part, what if joe doesn't g

now we bring in karl rove, former deputy chief of staff for president george w. ws contributor. karl, always good to have you with us. welcome. >> you bet. thanks for having me. >> thanks for being here. i want to replay this sound bite that we played on our way out to the break. i'm amazed that every time has asked for the qualifiers, whether or not they support the president running again, watch this from karine jean-pierre. >> how nervous is the white house? you think about the democrats out there making their voices heard. >> so the president intends to run in 2024. we're a long ways away from that. >> martha: yeah, he tends to run, but we're a long way away. so who knows what will happen, right, carl? >> yeah, within five months, we'll have the 2024 presidential contest underway. we'll have multiple candidates on the democratic side seeking the nomination. i cannot find it plausible that joe biden would run for a second term. the american people have made up their minds. you touched on a very important group. think about this. six quarter approval numbers in

let's bring in karl rove. he's a fox news contributor. , it's about two dozen lawmakers from the president's own party. it's extraordinary, isn't it? >> it is. they're responding to the base of the democratic party. two polls of democrats do you want joe biden to be your nominee in 2024? each case one out of every four democrats said yes. three out of four democrats said no. so in this instance, the elected officials are mirrors what they're hearing from the grass roots, which is it's time for a change at the top of the ticket. >> gillian: what makes this extraordinary to a certain degree as well is what you have said a couple times now, which is the reason for democratic resistance here is a fact. president biden would be 86 years old at the end of a second presidential term. that's not changing. >> yeah, that won't change. nor is he going to improve his performance in office. he came into office with a certain level of expectations. people thought he would be normal, take care of covid and unite the country. by april, may and june, he be

karl rove with reaction. joining us by phone is jonathan turley, law professor and fox news contributor. i was digging through your most recent reaction on twitter, and you're saying having read through this affidavit it leaves more questions, most questions unanswered. also raises further doubt over the court's acceptance that the doj found the goldilocks point of getting this just right. explain. >> well, i was a little concerned when the court just simply accepted the first cut of the department of justice on the redaction after the same department said it did not believe that any information, not a single line should be released previously to the court. some of us have been in litigation with the department of justice on overredactions and overclassifications. i've never seen a first cut from the department of justice that really hit that goldilocks point. and i think this really does sort of show that. i'm glad that the court did release some of this information. it confirms information that has been pre

let's bring in karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to president george w. fox news contributor. karl, good to have you with us. first of all, what do you make of these ratings changes? we're seeing them by a number of outlets including our own rankings. >> yeah, i think there's been in the last couple weeks as the focus has drifted off of biden and his record and inflation and the border and crime and the debacle in afghanistan, as it drifted to that and to mar-a-largo, the democrats have seen a brief movement upwards. i don't think, however, this will last and i think it may be a little overstated. if republicans take 16 seats in the house, that would give them 234. three seats more than they had when they took control of congress in 1995 when newt gingrich became speaker. republicans in the house are more likely to be in the 26, 28, 30 range. we have 11 weeks to go and a lot of activity will take place. >> martha: let's take a look at enthusiasm gap. we look at voter intensity, who is most fired up. we've seen what has happened in the primaries in terms o

elizabeth: karl rove, liz peek, thanks for joining us. gop gearing up to grill fbi director christopher wray. whistle-blowers alleging biased fbi officials are protecting hunter biden. this top debate how far left cities are failing the mentally ill who go on to commit crimes. also how far left billionaire george soros finally speaking out. he is delivering a weak defense though of his funding of weak on crime d.a.s. darren porcher, dr. nicole saphier ahead on "the evening edit." >> even in a city as liberal as san francisco the democratic voters there just recalled their radical soros prosecutor. when you have gone too far to the left for literal san francisco democrats you have gone off the deep end. ♪ moving forward with node- positive breast cancer is overwhelming. but i never just found my way; i made it. and did all i could to prevent recurrence. verzenio reduces the risk of recurrence of hr-positive, her2-negative, node-positive, early breast cancer with a high chance of returning,... as determined by your doctor when added to horm

they showed a great deal of patience, as karl rove indicated.uld agree with karl rove but a great deal of patience that perhaps may have not been justified under the circumstances other than the fact that the department of justice understood that to raise a former president's home was an extraordinary step. >> yeah, you know, we've been reporting on this but i haven't had a chance to discuss it with you. although i know a little bit of your work on civil rights and your real passion for some of these issues of justice, you and i have talked about, we've seen people get shot or lose their lives over not complying within 10 or 15 seconds of something, with their kids in the car. this is reality for so many americans. when you see today as i mentioned that this is the longest timeline we've had of evidence that this individual, who is a citizen, he is a human being in this country subject to the law like everyone else, had six months to just comply and he didn't. do you see a real contrast there? >> well there is a real concern that the principle t

in new "the wall street journal" op-ed, karl rove writes voters didn't like this hock u.s. to president o george w. bush fox contractor karl don't you love it when i quote you back to yourself. >> music to ears thank you started my day off well, thank you. how on planet earth can manchin and schumer and their buddies, gal pals in the senate and house push this tax-and-spend bill and think voters will believe that it had is good when economy is shrinking and inflation is roaring and raging. >> they the inflation reduction bill, wharton model says exact zero insignificant marketing bad people don't like washington don't like congress distrust government this bill claims to do things not doing, you are right a tax and spend bill. and there are more we are going to talk about this the worst going to get oh, one of the members said it is going to help seniors with drug prices immediately, it has price controls on prescription drugs covered by medicare that are very expensive and have no generic competition, and going to start, 2026 quote negotiating putting price controls on drug

karl rove standing by, former white house chief deputy chief of staff and current fox news contributorhas the momentum been stopped, karl? >> >> well, you know, look, we don't really know but i doubt it. i mean, this is -- this is a period of time, you know, just around labor day where all kinds of weird things happen. weird thing happening now is that democrats are getting the advantage of the media which is desperate to say they are back in the game. i love that there was one of them that said look at florida. look at florida. more people voting in the democratic primary in 2022 than four years ago. that's right. 1,513,213 people voted in this year's primary four years 1,509,000, less than 4,000 more people voted this time than last time and how many hundreds of thousands of people have moved to florida in the last four years and yet somehow or another this is supposed to be an i understand can as -- we are going to keep nancy pelosi as speaker 3,000 and some odd more people vote in the democratic primary in a rapidly growing state. another one, "new york times," for the first time i

you heard karl rove.ht out of ten impeachment republicans are now going to be out of congress this year. >> i think it means donald trump does have a considerable sway over the republican party's space. the base whether it's democrats of the republicans being the people who decide how these primaries and up. that is entirely a different manner than what happens in the general election as carl explains. the paradox of lizza cheney's she has tried to keep donald trump out of politics. the democrats want to keep him in politics because they want to run against him and people like him in the general elections. but to the extent cheney keeps them front forward, keeps his name as she apparently intends to do that animates the republican face. that makes it more likely trump will consider running for the nomination because he would be likely to get it. it divides the republican party. and i think the problem for it lizza cheney she has to consider if their publican's 2024 and they reelect a democrat, everything

. >> joining me is karl rove. eatened to raid their homes that's why they changed their tune, karl. >> this shows how out of step both nadler and malone are with the democratic base. and if you don't believe me, let's take a look at two very interesting sources of information. the "new york times" asked democrats do you think joe biden should be your nominee again? 26 percent said yes last month. 74% no. nobody was -- you know, up in the air about this question. cnn followed it, a week or so later. 25 percent said of democrats said yeah. let's renominate him again. 75 percent said no. so, nadler and malone are sucking up to the man in the oval office and breaking with the base of the democratic party, which recognizes that he should not be the nominee of their party in 2024. >> jesse: biden just raided mar-a-lago, does that fire up the left wing radical base? >> no. that's not going to change these numbers. here is why. here is a fundamental reason why democrats don't want him to run again. on the 20th of january,

as for republicans who are not buying the excuses, listen to gop strategist karl rove. >> my sense isar and a half, and why -- why he was holding on to these materials when he had no legal authority to do so under the presidential records act is beyond me. >> he could turn out to be an exception. tonight let's get perspective from cnn senior political commentator and former obama advisor david axelrod and alyssa farrah-griffin. good to have you both on tonight. alyssa, i understand the questions coming from the right on this, the president's supporters, about how unusual itself for the fbi to go into a former president's home. that said, you don't have to look back far to remember the reaction from some of those very same people to hillary clinton's handling of classified information on her private email server here. i wonder, what's your reaction when you hear that -- it's not -- it's not monolithic, but nearly monolithic support for the president and criticism of this raid? >> well, certain things should obviously be above partisan politics and our national security is one of those

karl rove has his own unique take coming up next hour and we'll get his thoughts then. until then there was this released late yesterday. >> dana: authorities releasing dash kam footage of paul pelosi slurring his words following a drunken car crash in california. how damaging is this video? >> bill: a barren patch of farmland in north dakota might not seem like grounds for chinese spying. what if we told you it was a few miles from a u.s. military base home to soeft nation's most sensitive military technology? >> dana: the vast majority of americans say the country is on the wrong track. we'll discuss with jared kushner. get more. more cash, more savings, more peace of mind. the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow up to 100% of your home's value. up to $60,000 or more. veterans are saving an average of $615 every month. with more ways to help more veteran families, no bank, no lender, no one knows veterans like newday usa. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uhh... here, i'll take that! yay!!!

karl rove can pick it up from there. good morning. an hour ago with the images from kabul one year ago today. the white house obviously wants to change the conversation hence the reason for signing this big bill today. put up call for number one, guys. the disapproval number as it stands today at 59%. we remarked that the moment that kabul fell he went underwater right around that time and hasn't come back since. how do you see this playing out for a president with those images hanging over his head? >> first of all he began his decline before that but you're right it began to bend down dramatically after the fall of kabul. it won't go away. they won't be saved by signing the so-called inflation reduction act and then going on a nationwide tour to hype it. every single major entity whether it's the congressional budget office or others say it won't have any impact on inflation. in fact, it is near zero impact on inflation. the bad things in the bill begin now and the benefits they give people begin later. audits. doubles the number of

. >> dagen: karl rove wrote about the inventor of the strategy senator claire mccaskill who deployed about 10 years ago in 2012 where she propped up who she saw as her weakest republican opponent labeling him as too conservative and she said that she boasted she successfully manipulated the g.o.p. primary to get the opponent she was most likely to beat. and so this is not new, but we have never seen it in this dollar amount, congresswoman. >> it shows how lack of confidence the democrats have in their own candidates. i can tell you that we have a primary here in new york tomorrow. i am proud to be endorsed by president trump. i know that whoever comes out of the democratic side that i will be able to beat as long as i am elected in tomorrow's primary. but what you are saying is right. they feel they need to meddle on the g.o.p. end to try to fix an election for themselves. it is no different than what we've seen them do all year long. look how they tried to gerrymander my district. they wanted to connect conservative staten island with bill deblasio's brooklyn. we had to go to court

in order to do so turn to karl rove is he a fox news contributor and he joins me now. le white board, which would probably come in handy if we were making top five lists of worst democratic policy ideas and i asked you where does defund the police come in on your ranking? >> well, it comes up there near the top because if you don't have a safe society. if our communities aren't safe, then a lot of other things can't happen that are good. and, frankly, this is a problem. we have got -- i would like to divide this, if i could, into two. let's talk about fetterman for a few moments. but let's also talk about what democrats are doing around the country, largely powered by money from george soros, included by my hometown of austin. with regard to fetterman, what's amazing to me said this in fact, there are three instances where he says isn't this a great idea? i agree with it yet, when his opponent, mehmet oz ran an ad saying he believes in letting a third of the people out of our prisons, politifact, which portrays itself as a nonpartisan organization says this is distortin

karl rove will explain why coming up here. dana? >> dana: well, the economy's engine lights are flashing. americans are piling up credit card debt as they struggle to keep up with the high cost of living. is this what the american dream has come to? we'll talk to money expert david ramsay plus this. >> bill: that's the moment a california store owner stops an armed robber with a shotgun of his own. we're going to hear from the good guy with a gun coming up. ♪ so i climbed into the cab, and then i settled down inside ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere ♪ ♪♪ psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. five years clear. real people with psoriasis look and feel better with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infection, some serious and a lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infectio

. >> karl rove op-ed says the truth is buried behind some confusing language. he writes it is clear what the administration was saying. more households of all income will be audited. more than 95% of all audits of individual returns have been of households earning less than $200,000. if the i.r.s. honor its word. whether people who earn less than $400,000. the white house says they aren't. they haven't laid out the mechanism by which they'll guarantee that doesn't happen. they have not shared the details with us. >> there was a way to guarantee it wouldn't happen. remember when this was debated on the senate floor and there was an amendment by senator from idaho, republican senator saying okay, let's have an amendment that says nobody who makes less than $400,000 will be audited with the new money. the interesting thing, every single democrat, every one of them from bernie sanders on down the line all voted against that amendment. so they could have solved this problem. they don't want to. why? this is the middle class country. the money is in the hands in the

axial senior politics reporter josh, former bush white house adviser karl rove.s political analyst juan williams and wall street journal white house reporter catherine lucy. welcome panel. >> good to be with you. jennifer: the president blasted the maga movement he quoted it as similar fascism how similar is this to hillary clinton's deplorable comments? >> i would see if the president said was clearly after januar january 6, 2021. after january 6 you had the reality a group of people, trump supporters to attack the congress of the united states to stop the certification of a legitimate fair election. you had people in that crowd who wanted to threaten if not hang vice president pence. you had a situation where there were trump officials pressuring state officials to manufacturer votes and send phony electors to the congress of the united states. i think the people behave that way they can expect to be called semi- fascist, fascist your acting against mensa constitution these united states they are trying to undermine didn't play it but it's important to say pres

deals he's running forru reelection, he was enemy number one has opponent had been recruited by karl rovenote senate leader in 50 years they could've gotten more republican. and in that election, aup groupf out of nowhere a group of conservatives political blogs to cover the race south dakota politics came up they started hammering nonstop. transition eventually to pushing conspiracy theories but one that got a ton of attention they publish blockbuster soup like siren emojis, got on the drudge report, that he had a secret deal with the native american population that if the native americans population delivered a number of votes the tribal leaders had enough votes that he would return the black hills to the siouxil nation. which is something that should happen, it is their land and it was stolen. but far beyond the power of one senator to do on his own since clearly not true. i might who is reading these idiotic blogs? no one who matters. no centering focus groups always have theseud undecided voters ae reading that to me what they are hearing in here. and what we learned later on after i

. >> bret: respond to karl rove.republicans heading into november. matthew. >> i think it's hard to say. i think at the end of the day, people won't be necessarily voting what's happening with trump and the fbi, they will be voting on how their standard of living has declined unthis president. and i would say, too. this has been a net benefit for the former president trump. he has rallied his base. he has driven the republican party into his arms, and he has raised a lot of money off of it it's not clear to me that it's such a winner for the democrats. >> bret: all right. panel, thank you. ♪ >> bret: all right. it is time for "tuesday tweets." cna bill asks how many of those u.s. had paid off student loans will now vote against every democrat? i mean, this is what we are talking about. it makes people mad. it's a large section who either didn't go college or paid off their student loans like senator leahy did. so it's a bill political issue that knife's edge for this administration. up next, steve robinson wants to k

one example of that is when you spoke to karl rove, in some ways your opposite on the republican sidepersonal tragedy. >> yeah. >> both of your parents died by suicide. >> yes. >> let's listen. >> my mother was a troubled person. she never seemed to be able to hold a course in life. finally there was a little bit of light and my sister and she went for a ride and my sister said she just had a sense for the first time that mom was starting to see that there was a possibility, and within a matter of hours she had committed suicide. >> oh, my. >> if possible, get help for those who are suffering from mental illness. think about t your dad, my mom, probably today if diagnosed early would be able to have some regime of drugs that would help them navigate this. it happened to both of us in part because our parents didn't get help. >> what impact did that have on you? >> well, a lot. you know, and karl and i actually bonded around that issue and we've done some work together around suicide prevention, suicide awareness. i try to talk about mental illness wherever it's germane in these conver

karl rove, thank you as always. >> you bet. >> jesse: the fallout from paulie p.'s dui continues. have been accused of milking this story and like, paulie p., i plead guilty. was sentenced this week to about pretty much nothing. maybe some highway trash clean-up. should we go easy on the guy if he is picking up trash on the highway for community service, do you not want us to have cameras there? i thought so. two developments today. the first, the california highway patrol announced they have revoked paulie's coveted donor card. mr. high profile person himself is no longer a member of the california highway patrol foundation and will no longer be able to flash his card when he plows into people with his porch. now, we did report a correction earlier this week. we originally told you that paulie had the gold donor card. but the record showed paulie p. was actually together around their platinum card. the highest possible get out of jail free card the state currently offers. the card requires you to donate at least 100 grand to the highway patrol scholarship fund a very good charity

we had karl rove on earlier saying no, no, he can't take the documents home with him and treat them likes. government's. i'm wondering if that alone is supposedly the justification for this and if it is, is that enough to pursue criminal charges even if you're misrepresented whether you had them or whether they were all sensitive or for that matter they were the kind of stuff that he shouldn't have had. >> i think the question of whether or not he declassified them is relevant to figuring out if there's a national security risk here. from the perspective of the justice department, i don't think it matters if they were classified for not. the justice department seems to be investigating the former president for don't require that the documents be classified. they say if you're in possession of government documents and we ask you to give them back, you have to give them back. >> neil: so what if you misrepresent when you had them or not and say everything i gave you i gave you. seems to be -- i talked to a legal eagle on this on fbn, which you don't get you should demand. one of the things

but this is breaking through this semifascism, and if i could just push back on my friend karl rove,say this about all republicans. if he's not talking to you, don't talk back to him. he talk about maga republicans. he talked about, i would include folk like lindsey graham, who's now threatening violence, which is a hallmark of fascism. but he wasn't talk about all of his old friends in the republican party, so they can kind of calm down and perhaps denounce people like lindsey graham, denounce other people who are threatening violence. so it's a good time to be joe biden. and he's having fun. you can see that, you know? >> mm-hmm. a lot of what we've seen from the republicans was the -- not completely off the wall premise that if things still felt off post pandemic, economic jitters, prices surging, that they didn't have to, quote, do that much going into these midterms. they might just say, hey, the other guy's promised a lot. a lot of stuff sucks. that's a journalism term, joan. a lot of things still suck in various ways, especially for working people in this economy, and they tho

dakota, a big deal senate race because is running for reelection, enemy number one, his opponent was karl rove no senate reelection in 50 years and in that election, a group of out of nowhere a group of conservative blogs, south dakota politics came up and they just hammer down nonstop. he transitions to conspiracy theories and work on the attention wasli this blockbuster scoop, siren emoji and there is a secret deal with native american population if the native american population delivered enough votes, they would return to the nation which is something should happen but far beyondha the power to do, is really not true. like who is reading these idiotic blocks? they don't matter and then you go two focusn groups and undecided voters are reading back to meat what they ar hearing. what we learned later on was that our opponent, the republicanth opponent was paying these blocks to publish these things and it dawned on me was the first time i confronted disinformation is a explicit political strategy and i filed away something as something would see something later, maybh not to what we see now.

politics reporter josh kraushaar, former bush white house advisor karl rove. "wall street journal" white house reporter catherine lucey. welcome, panel. >> good to be with you. >> jennifer: juan, the president blasted the maga movement, referred to the philosophy as "semi fascism." how similar is this to hillary clinton's deplorable comment? >> i would say, you know, what the president said was clearly after january 6th 2021. hillary clinton spoke before january 6th, 2021. after january 6, you had the reality that there were a group of people, trump supporter's, who attacked the congress of the united states to stop the certification of a legitimate, fair election. you had people in the crowd who wanted to threaten if not hang vice president pence. you had a situation where trump officials were pressuring state officials to manufacture votes and send phony electors to the congress of the united states. i think if people behave that way, then they can be -- they can expect to be called semi fascist, fascist, because it's antidemocratic action. you are acting ag

going to be a big deal because tom -- was running for reelection he was bush's enemy number one that karl rove make no senate leader and election in 70 years, and in that election out of nowhere a group of conservative political blogs name to cover south dakota politics came up and they started hammering -- nonstop interest in transitioning to conspiracy theories and theyy gt attention like a blockbusters cube, siren mod they got it on the george report that tom -- had a secret deal with the mid-america population in the native american population delivered enough votes in the leaders delivered enough votes then -- would return the black hills to the two nations. something that should happen it was their land that was stolen but far beyond the power ofna oe senator to do on his own. at first i dismissed it who is reading the 80 attic blog, no one who matters then we were doing focus groups and these voters are reading back to me what they are hearingng in here. what we learned later on is our opponent the republicans in it was paying these blogs to publishes information about. it really dawned

and at the time it was seen as part of a karl rove/george bush attempt to get the latino vote..lo, a hispanic maid, and there was a whole political analysis, but it's a charming romantic comedy if you put the politics aside. >> putting the politics aside is almost something we never do. shout-out to them and the analysis. chai, good to see you. >> thank you. >>> we have a lot more coming up, and it's not about movies, alt although one of the stories is about something caught on film. these two caught on an of the mic. we'll explain. >>> and the story that matters from the bottom of our hearts about facts and justice. alex jones confronted, on the stand, worried about being fined tens of millions of dollars. that's next. -n-nothin' yet ♪ ♪ here's something, ♪ ♪ here's something you're never gonna fff-forget, baby ♪ get a dozen shrimp for only one dollar with any steak entrée. only at applebee's. meet ron. that man is always on. and he's on it with jardiance for type 2 diabetes. his underhand sky serve? on fire. his grilling game? on point. and his a1c? ron is on it. with the onc

personalities thate have emerged since the white house tenure and stephen miller and trump david axelrod karl rove. there's always been a figure that amplifies the president's personality and i'm wondering why you think that hasn't happened with the biden white house and has that harmed the white house in some sense and who do you think is the david axelrod of joe biden picks that this is honestly uncanny. we were having a conversation in the car three hours ago about whatpe happened to the celebrity strategists and who came out of the 2020 election? who came out of 2020? the architect. .. not as visible the dramas and the ups and downs of the campaign. we're just not as visible. i think part of it it speaks to the like really close-knit and to be euphemistic about it a very long tenured inner circle around joe biden, right? these are mostly people >> and mr. joe biden because most of the people been sooner but i was anything about this, there really was someone who could have claimed a lot of thad it was mike donlon to isth basically a recluse i think there are a couple of people divided will him

even karl rove who is a fan of trump has said he should not have these, it's in violation of the presidential act. but there is the other facet of the republican party. many view him as the victim. they look at what the doj and the fbi has done has going after him as a prosecutorial witch hunt. they look at this 38-page document. about two-thirds of it is redacted. and while they do respect covering up for sources and methods, they say that a lot of this heavily redacted material is a way to avoid transparency and they say that the doj and fbi are doing bidding for the democratic party. many republicans who were ready to turn their back on trump and look to someone else in 2024 now view him as a victim or a martyr and they're ready to get on board and support him. >> what do you think ramesh. you mentioned ignorance, alalic if you're talking about a narrative, you want to capitalize on what you don't know, what the electorate might not know. maybe he does declassify. president biden came out to talk about the idea of the notion that you can declassify in a blanket way. listen to this. >> that

he was bush's enemy number one, his opponent was recruited by karl rove. no senate leader had lost in 50 years. in that election, a group of, out of nowhere, a group of conservative political blogs, immaculately named to cover the race, they came up and hammered daschle nonstop. they transitioned eventually into pushing conspiracy theories. we published this lock muster scoop, like, siren emojis, it was on the drudge report, that tom daschle had a secret deal with the native american population that if the native american population delivered enough votes, daschle would return the black hills to them. which is something that should happen. it is their land that was stolen. but far beyond the power of one senator to do, so it is clearly not true. at first i dismissed it, like, who is reading these idiotic blogs? no one who matters. but all of a sudden he's undecided voters are reading back to me what they are hearing in here. and what we learned leader on was that our opponent, the republican candidate, was paying these blogs to publish disinformation about

it's steven miller and trump david axel rod karl rove.here's always been a figure that kind of amplified the president's personality crazy about and i'm wondering why you think that hasn't happened with the biden white house and you know it has that harmed the white house in some sense and popular bars. and what what who do you think is this is who do you think is the david axelrod of joe bid? oh your parents. this is honestly uncanny we were having a conversation in the car like three hours ago about like what happened to the celebrity strategist right? like the date who came out of the 2020 election the cheap 10 cent cigars. they're just gone but like who came out of 2020 as like the architect right? like the sort of bush's brain character of the biden campaign. i think some of that's about covid right? i think that like it was just not as visible the dramas and the ups and downs of the campaign. we're just not as visible. i think part of it it speaks to the like really close-knit and to be euphemistic about it a very long tenured inner

karl rove, congressman kevin brady up here in just a moment.e taliban celebrating in the streets of afghanistan. the afgn

karl rove with us, the deputy chief of staff.t wants totals of what was taken at why. where do you think it is going? >> i'm not a lawyer and i didn't stay at a holiday inn express last night but it won't go as far as he wants but may go someplace. we have the search of mar-a-lago. the fbi has begun to review those documents, a filter team, an independent group of lawyers and fbi agents examine each of the documents to make sure there's not something like attorney-client privilege between the president and his lawyers or personal items. we know by the 15th they identify the president's passports, when diplomatic and two personal, not necessary for the investigation of personal items, those are returns, they started to go on the ninth and by monday the 15th they returned some items that were not coming back and we have august 22nd with the request for the special master and what was returned by the president in january to the government and boxes that were taken as a result of the search there may be as many as 3000 documents so w

jackie: let's get reaction from karl rove, great to see you.erates today that the united states continues to oppose unilateral efforts, but also says beijing dramatically intensified tensions with taiwan to say leading the us depart -- defense department to conclude china's army is likely preparing for contingency to unify taiwan with the prc by force and that's one of the reasons she's making a statement with this trip that she is there right now. that is the grave concern. >> let's step back. my concern, up to the speaker to decide whether she wants to go to taiwan or not, speaker gingrich went there. the other thing that bothers me is the president should have, the policy of strategic ambiguity instead of saying as he did that he didn't think she should go and neither did the defense department. this is an incentive for the chinese to ratchet it up. if he said nothing or repeated the same formula speaker pelosi did reaffirming the one china policy and so forth, it would not have served as an incentive, the signal to the chinese, i'm concerne

karl rove is also here and former secretary of state mike pompeo. of the gentlemen that will be joining us shortly. that as 59% of the americans say the american economy is getting worse, not getting better as the white house takes a