. >> charles keating was a lawyer who got into banking and was able to buy a savings and loan., california, he used it as a private bank for his ambitions, like the venetian hotel, which cost $500,000 per room to build. >> that was a magnificent investment for savings and loans. no question but >> the problem is when our appraisers looked at it they said, it's not so bad, but it's worth 200 million point >> the block was the chief regulator who was really the guy who spearheaded going after keating. >> we discovered likely fraud, really basic things. things that no other spanker would do. the examiners looked at 52 real estate loans lincoln made. there were no credit reports on the borrowers in all 52. >> on top of that, charles keating has lincoln savings so uninsured junk bonds and he targets the widows and the retirement community. >> there were 22,000 customers who would buy $250 million of these bonds. >> we sold our home in sherman oaks. the husband had a stroke. we moved down here, went to lincoln savings. >> how much did you venture? >> you want to know? $30,000 and for

they got caught up in lobbying regulators to go easy on charles keating in arizona. i don't think you would blame reagan for that. that's a commonplace problem, unfortunately. john: ron in arlington, virginia. caller: good morning. it's great to talk to you today. i do think you are exaggerating on the covid-19. the former president was the executive at that time and i pick we should keep that in mind. my question goes to the america first movement in the 30's when nazi-ism was spreading throughout germany. they issued radios to every citizen and i do believe our cable media, fox and msnbc and cnn are entertainment channels. what's the impact of their misinformation and why wouldn't we defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic? why would we not want to do that? steven: we certainly do want to do that. one problem is and the first part of your question put your finger on it -- we disagree on who our enemies are. we are making enemies of the other side too. in simple terms. i would say this about the parallels with the 30's and now -- people comment o

they got caught up in lobbying regulators to go easy on charles keating in arizona. i don't think you would blame reagan for that. that's a commonplace problem, unfortunately. john: ron in arlington, virginia. caller: good morning. it's great to talk to you today. i do think you are exaggerating on the covid-19. the former president was the executive at that time and i pick we should keep that in mind. my question goes to the america first movement in the 30's when nazi-ism was spreading throughout germany. they issued radios to every citizen and i do believe our cable media, fox and msnbc and cnn are entertainment channels. what's the impact of their misinformation and why wouldn't we defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic? why would we not want to do that? steven: we certainly do want to do that. one problem is and the first part of your question put your finger on it -- we disagree on who our enemies are. we are making enemies of the other side too. in simple terms. i would say this about the parallels with the 30's and now -- people comment o

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