who won the week, erin haines and mostly maria back with me. let me go to melissa murray.k the january six select committee won the week when they brought in the spouse of a sitting supreme court justice to testify. this has never happened before. who knows it above if it will happen? again if they won the week, that means john roberts lost the week because he definitely did not want this in the news cycle. >> i'm trying to figure out anyway and we won't see any more comments about his lady but this is something very much off there. but we are interested to hear what she testified. to erin haines, it falls to you who tell us to tell us who won the week. >> and let melissa finished, but i think vivian jefferson, aka lizzo, she was in washington on tour earlier this week. got onstage and literally played the flute from james madison from 1813 when she was in town. congress invited her to see the full, play it, she took them up on the offer, and the rest as they say is literally history. black people playing a american artifact a copy of u.s. constitution, a shout out to the

>> joining our conversation, erin haines, also an msnbc contributor.ing all around the country. really since roe was overturned. a little before that. but really in a focused way. and you know, not only is her message very well received, but it's also really seems to be tapping into this political tsunami that i know you have new reporting out about. >> yeah. well, i mean, look, first of all, let me just say that the thing i was most looking forward to besides football and the return of pumpkin spice latte was the return of the circus, so yes. yay for that. last night's episode, you saw the vice president doing a lot of what i had been seeing her do on the campaign trial heading into the general election. that is kind of laying out democrats' frames of this election in terms of people's access to freedom and rights and casting republicans as extreme on not just abortion. what that does is it really kind of takes the post dobbs era into territory that isn't just about gender or about faith and it builds on the kinds of things that the administration wan

joining us erin haines and joining john and me at the table, basil smikle and director of the publice. bazil, it is like what low-hanging fruit and communicate to the voters first? >> so the lindsey graham move smacks of desperation. the spring and summer reflex was we got what we want from the supreme court but they found out horribly discord ant the trues with regard to the american people. so what you're hearing now, because of everything that happened in january 6 and subsequent to that, is that cack aco phony that leads to this point which is what seems to be a desperate move to say if we have nothing else, if we don't have someone like a donald trump bringing us altogether, let as see what we could do. obviously there are tragic consequences to all of this. that democrats need to be -- sort of mobilized around. and they are. but this smacks of desperation. it is a horrific desperation. >> and it is -- it is on three levels. there is the human cost and the tragedy and the health risk for women. there is the political stupidity of being on the other side of a 63% question keeping