or jeffrey lazarus are just very, very quickly. so want to come to serve as well, but very quickly, are these 6 policy briefings this new optimism from the w h. o. is this just for coven 19? or is this future proofing for further variance of a different type of disease as well as the information being able to be carried? it is absolutely future proofing as you put it. i mean, these are the kinds of messages that are relevant now and are going to be relevant in future. i mean, i think we have to agree. the goal is to end this pandemic as a public health threat. these policy briefs contribute to it, but we need again, both governments but also with input from the population to have a stronger strategy or plan. when i worked at w h o and we worked on the nature of the strategy, we had public hearings and then it was approved by the member states. so we need that kind of engagements that people feel a part of it that they're heard, but that ultimately the governments of the world are taking these decisions and financing what needs to b

jeffrey lazarus of a research group for global health, in dublin.arah, interim african director for the campaign. i hope to begin in geneva first with margaret harris. the w.h.o. released six key policy documents. are they a blueprint on how to do things better? margaret: indeed, a distillation of what we have learned in the last 32 months of this terrible pandemic and we have learned important lessons. also, a plea to governments to apply them. now is the time to double down, not relax. host: sarah, it must be disappointing for you that the w.h.o. has said the end is in sight and released these six policy documents, but the african continent had huge amounts of trouble getting vaccines, distributing them. there is no specific policy document for the african continent. that must be frustrating. sarah: one thing we had, awakening, not just the debilitating crisis it brought, but the twin economic crisis happening and unfolding as saidf all populations should be vaccinated by the end of the year. the african continent is still at 22.6%. at this pace i