executive director of energy- efficient cities of ukraine, is also with us now discusses this topic p sviatoslavato ask you for your opinion e so who will provide heat to ukrainians in the occupied territories in the winter, i can only be mistaken for the fact that these people manage to get off and leave this is my only wish because the leader himself will not be able to help there and it is not a fact that they can afford it by themselves, but people who at least have their own individual housing and have their own, their own, some kind of thing and can get wood somewhere to heat their house , they can still somehow support themselves, people who stayed stayed to live in multi-story often broken houses uh, i don’t have any good news here and they they they they have to go in and leave that is i can imagine how it is possible to live in such a house obviously it is better than on the street then at least the snow emphasizes but their fate is sad and it ’s absolutely not for the address, so try to just leave such places. and this entails not only the issue of heating, it’s the oceans pushed in, t