this is jacob mchangama's "free speech" subnine which is ouavailable now and it has been available for couple of weeks and is getting a very strong and appreciative audience i would say in the united states and its in europe also. we think it's great and we have known jacob for quite a while. and who better to have just a conversation amongst like-minded people with some differences then john ralph from bookings. what i'm going to do is give a brief bio. you bio. you main know both of these people from your work. orboth of them are good people d by the way i am john samples the vice president here at cato. you all know me. i thought jacob would tell us something about the book and we talk about the issues and turned a queue in a little while. jacob mchangama is the founder and executive director of -- and the host of the podcast "clear and present danger" a history of free speech and not surprisingly a highly recommend that to you. it's a very interestingng podcat series and available still. his writings that they disappeared in the economist the "washington post"'s foreign-policy and

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jacob mchangama is founder and executive director, host of the podcast clear and present danger, a historyfree speech emphasizing how we recommend that to you. very interesting podcast series that is available still. his writings on free-speech have appeared in the economist, washington post, foreign policy and other outlooks around the world. he lives in copenhagen, denmark. john rauch is a senior fellow of government studies and author of tweet books. it made me feel bad, the eighth book, how do you see that? many articles on public policy, culture, and government, his articles have been highly influential as you may know. his many publications include the 2021 book the constitution of knowledge:the defense of truth as well as the 2,015 e-book which i think more and more is coming into its own, political realism. big-money and backroom deals can strengthen american democracy. he writes for the atlantic it is a recipient of the 2005 national magazine award, equivalent of the pulitzer prize. so i am eager to get started here. jacob, tell us something about the book, what led you to write i